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Thinking about applying to GCAA??

Old 7th Jan 2014, 12:50
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Thinking about applying to GCAA??

Here's the current numbers.

52925AED/month
22 Shifts of leave per year. 12 of which must be used consecutively. Recently reduced from 34.

No Schooling on top. The above number includes a small amount of Housing allowance that is NOT paid in advance.

Decent to Good healthcare included.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 17:40
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Anyone who thinks that amount of leave is acceptable has never worked in the middle east.

That's a deal-breaker, regardless of issues with rental assistance, school fees or salary.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 18:23
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Thinking about applying to GCAA??

Sounds ok for a single person
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 18:34
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22 Shifts of leave per year. 12 of which must be used consecutively.
How long is a "shift" for leave purposes?
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 23:52
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You are insane if you even consider leaving a secure position to work at the Abu Dhabi ACC. No pay rise for the foreseeable future. Rising school fees and rents. A 'contract' not worth the paper it is written on. Morale in the toilet.
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Old 8th Jan 2014, 05:04
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So what is the percentage cut in annual leave?

Sounds like a deal breaker to even the most insane person.
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Old 8th Jan 2014, 06:39
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Percentage...

The percentage cut in leave is 35%! We all have contracts with our old leave allowance but obviously they were printed on toilet paper as that's how they have been treated.

The older fellas had contracts before which had housing allowance on and these too were replaced one day without requiring a signature.

The guys that have just arrived having agreed to certain benefits now face training for a job with a month less leave than they agreed too. The salary is next to go with senior management looking to 'cheaper' nationalities to fill positions…

Its been going downhill for a while here and has just run off the cliff edge…

Will get much worse this year as everyone leaves and can't find quality replacements! You have been warned….
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Old 8th Jan 2014, 15:36
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There is about to be a massive exodus, 22 leave days, they have got to be kidding!
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Old 8th Jan 2014, 18:24
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So it means 22 "calendar" days? Or is there a possibility of 6 on-4 off formula, meaning you also get the 4 days when taking a 6 day leave?

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Old 8th Jan 2014, 18:32
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Well, if someone gets something else that he had on his contract and does nothing with this, then how things can go better?

As far as I know, the Gulf does not offer a regular job with terms&conditions that are subject to regular negotiations between the unions and employer. At the Middle East you sign up for a defined period of time on a specific T&C that you agree upon. If they break it at the very beginning, why don't you leave?
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Old 8th Jan 2014, 22:02
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If they break it at the very beginning, why don't you leave?
What are you, an idiot? In this field, you simply cannot change jobs at the drop of a hat. Let's say; you make the decision to leave. It will take months, at least, to obtain another job. Then there is the hassle of moving to another country (essentially, changing jobs in this profession means: Moving to another country), medical, training, validation, getting a house/car/life etc. It's not like quitting your job as a carpenter, and starting the next day with another builder.

On the other hand, the providers are like oil tankers- they take a long time to turn around. By the time they piss the staff off enough that they become short staffed (staff do leave over time, when pushed), maybe 18 months pass before they realise something has to be done, then the time taken to actually do it. It's a 2 to 5-year cycle. Lessons forgotten (and fairly recently so, in this case) have to be learned again. Maybe even learned the first time?
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Old 9th Jan 2014, 05:34
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Let's not forget that regulations state we have to take a period of 2 cycles of leave once a year. 12 days of your leave gone! 10 days left for the remaining 11 months. Great!

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Old 9th Jan 2014, 07:33
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Start applying elsewhere before everyone else does I'd say. Beat the rush.
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Old 9th Jan 2014, 09:13
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I guess some of those days of leave will be spent on going to interviews and looking around other pastures.
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Old 9th Jan 2014, 10:10
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Come on Muscat. Pay your controllers slightly more then the cheaper rents and less oppressive regime will look even more attractive!!
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Old 25th Jan 2014, 07:19
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So what happened with that vacation? Any news on that? Is it true that those missing 12 days will be considered as "compensation" days?
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Old 25th Jan 2014, 11:39
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Maybe even learned the first time?
Spot on.

 
Old 25th Jan 2014, 12:41
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How about applying for a job at quatar aeronautical college?
How is their ATC training structured and do they need coaches? Can I get any info here?

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Old 26th Jan 2014, 04:44
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Mamluk,

We were told that there was a verbal agreement with HR that these days would be compensation days. All it needed was signing off. Well over a week ago now and now it's talk again of 22 days being final. No one knows anything because management doesn't communicate anything.
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 22:18
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Just clarifying is this GAL or GCAA? Or are they the same thing?
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