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Old 4th May 2012, 17:44
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1985,
But it obviously affects your spelling and proof-reading!
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obwan,
loving your work. At my last unit there was a supervisor who dressed like a schoolboy. Stood out like a dog's whats'it.
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1985,
But it obviously affects your spelling and proof-reading!
Sorry, pressed send in mid rant. But you are right i can't spell, makes being an ATCO the perfect job for me.
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What's wrong with schoolboys? At my old school, Eton College, we were always beautifully turned out.
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What if my area colleagues decide that they WON'T adhere to a dress code?
Will this be a disciplinary offence?
What negotiations did the unions have about it with their members?
How come this seems to be the first that we have heard about it?

It all started when Barron ditched the tie!!
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Anyway, there are no financial penalties associated with a 'smart-casual dress code'.
Monies saved due to the management/Prospect booze-ban can easily be diverted to to more sartorial channels.
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Back to the days of jackets with leather patches on the elbows and a pipe seems in order
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Very sad that the smarter dress only applies from Monday to Friday. At my unit, we had many visitors at weekends too, when traffic loadings were lighter, and the chances of distraction were lower.
'Trainers' denims, flip-flops and 'hoodies' should really be reserved for night-duties.
I had the pleasure of visiting EGVAZT during Sunday's RIAT a few years ago. All the volunteer ATC staff were 'smart-casual', in custom polo-shirts.
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Old 4th May 2012, 19:11
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Barron thought he was a real business person, like that Branson chap and he didn't wear a tie. Why do the unions have to get involved if an employer wants to stop their staff coming in to work looking like the Beverly Hillbillies?(somebody explain to those under the age of 50)
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Old 4th May 2012, 19:23
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This was always going to come with the upsurge in beachwear in the Ops room...I'm no lover of management and their present day wannabe corporate BS but I also can't stand flip flops and board shorts.We brought it on ourselves.
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It is interesting to note that, on the NATS public website, many of the names and photographs of the 'Executive Team' have disappeared.
Also, all the new appointees are, like the CEO, tie-wearers
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Old 4th May 2012, 20:38
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What's the fuss? An employer has requested a dress code. Big deal. Most of the rest of the world does. Is it really that much to ask people to put on a smart pair of jeans and a shirt?

We don't bother at my unit but we still don't come dressed as tramps. Flip flops to work? Jeepers Creepers Almighty.
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Can I claim a waistcoat on expenses?
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Old 4th May 2012, 21:04
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they're only asking for smart dress, not fancy dress, Gonzo
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Old 4th May 2012, 21:39
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Not happy.

If I want to sit there in jeans and a tee, then why not? I find the ops room warm ALL the time and find this the most comfortable. I have also worn tailored shorts and flip flops on extremely hot days and probably looked smarter than others on watch.

Some people just need to lighten up and start facing far more important issues
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Old 4th May 2012, 22:00
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Originally Posted by Tigersaw
Back to the days of jackets with leather patches on the elbows and a pipe seems in order
If you ask Watch Supervisor Cholmondly-Warner nicely will you be allowed to remove said jackets when it's hot...?
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Old 4th May 2012, 22:24
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Christ! 75k plus and complaining about the dress code!! Please have a look at the local situations vacant pages in the local rag.
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I support casual wear. Unfortunately in more recent years the interpretation of "casual" has become ridiculously stupid, even obscene, with some people. I remember the other extreme when I started way back in the late sixties. It was strictly shirt and tie, or if no tie, shirt and jacket. On very hot days the Supervisor would authorise us to take our ties off! Casual (but neat) was allowed on nights and weekends. I think that there's plenty of scope to wear comfortable and casual clothes without descending to the appaling standards and poor taste that some of the newer generation have adopted.
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Meanwhile, in the 'Real World'....

Mrs Z recently applied for a part-time position, (less than 10 of your Earth hours per-week), with a well-known food retailer.

The 3 stage interview and assessment-centre/group exercise process was 3 times longer than the enjoyable procedure that I went through in the late 1970s, which lead to 31 years as an ATCO.
'Human Resources' people, - don't you just love 'em.

Dress code:- Hair must be tied back in a pony-tail, no heels over 2'', no long nails, no nail-varnish, all 'tattoos' must be concealed, etc,
All the above to sit on a 'supermarket workstation', i.e. checkout.
Issued with uniform and 'Hi-Viz' prior to joining.

Needless to say, - position rejected.

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Old 5th May 2012, 00:12
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Jeezus

Having started this thread I knew there would be the stalwart proletariat on the shop floor feeeling the pain. ATCO's in the TMA seem to me to take the brunt of management sh*te. Doing the best job in Europe if not the world. Yet we're judged on our outwardly appearance instead of the job that most people are incapable of doing. Oh yes we earn loads of cash, in my day we wore suits. Well boll*cks to them, I do not care what they think. This is a message to the TMA, talk to your prospect member and let your thoughts be heard. Let's face it, flip flops now, pay deal, pensions, working conditions next. Make a stand bros and ho's
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