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Has anyone out there noticed just how top heavy NATS training section has become with middle management of all kinds?
The amalgamation of all three training centres in the South should have provided opportunities for some thinning out of management grades but that doesn't seem to have happened. In fact cronyism and self interest prevail and jobs are simply created out of nowhere!!
They've got a manager for everything but the service to their customers is no better for it. I feel sorry for the guys and girls on the 'shopfloor' who get to enact all of their management's daft plans to stay in a job!
It's rumoured that they can't even attract ATCO instructors to the simulators any longer because they're all so fed up with being messed around.
It seems to me that if NATS are serious about cutting costs then management could take a long hard look at themselves before meddling with everyone else.
The amalgamation of all three training centres in the South should have provided opportunities for some thinning out of management grades but that doesn't seem to have happened. In fact cronyism and self interest prevail and jobs are simply created out of nowhere!!
They've got a manager for everything but the service to their customers is no better for it. I feel sorry for the guys and girls on the 'shopfloor' who get to enact all of their management's daft plans to stay in a job!
It's rumoured that they can't even attract ATCO instructors to the simulators any longer because they're all so fed up with being messed around.
It seems to me that if NATS are serious about cutting costs then management could take a long hard look at themselves before meddling with everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Fila
It's rumoured that they can't even attract ATCO instructors to the simulators any longer because they're all so fed up with being messed around
for not possessing a valid TV Licence
In Oz they abandoned them about 40 years ago, as there was such a high percentage did not pay it.
Sorry about being off topic, but looking to move to UK for 2 years in about 3 years and interested to know.
Very much so; our streets are patrolled by detector vans which can triangulate where a TV is being watched then cross check whether they have a valid licence.
Revenue is passed on to the BBC who waste it on paying unnecessary managers, programming and overpaid TV 'celebrities'(well they think they're celebrities anyway).
Revenue is passed on to the BBC who waste it on paying unnecessary managers, programming and overpaid TV 'celebrities'(well they think they're celebrities anyway).
Doesn't work for the BBC any more (doesn't work period in my opinion) but I bet the BBC are paying him compensation for terminating his contract; that's another way they waste money.
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If the OP's post is true then I'd suggest those down south take a look at the training section at PC.
Thanks to my involvement with EFD I've spent a lot of time in there of late and it's extremely lean, well managed, customer focussed and wins plaudits across the company consistently for what it delivers.
Of course, because it's up north, it also seems to be treated as a poor relation to the aforementioned resource-heavy behemoth that is the southern campus. Fancy that.
Thanks to my involvement with EFD I've spent a lot of time in there of late and it's extremely lean, well managed, customer focussed and wins plaudits across the company consistently for what it delivers.
Of course, because it's up north, it also seems to be treated as a poor relation to the aforementioned resource-heavy behemoth that is the southern campus. Fancy that.
Of course, because it's up north, it also seems to be treated as a poor relation to the aforementioned resource-heavy behemoth that is the southern campus. Fancy that.
Has anything changed in nearly 40 years ?
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Does Wick even have a training section? 
I'm not really one for courses Loki. Unless we're talking golf, of course.
Eric T - it would appear not. That's progress for you.
I'm not really one for courses Loki. Unless we're talking golf, of course.
Eric T - it would appear not. That's progress for you.
Tigersaw; I wasn't specifically referring to Jonathon Woss; look at Alan Hansen, £1.5M pa for a couple of hours a week during the footy season only; if that's not wasting money what is?
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Anything to do with foot ball is expensive. I resent every penny of my licence fee that goes towards paying megabucks to watch a bag of wind going from one end of a field to another.
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<<customer focussed >>
Sorry me old... but that sounds awfully like management yukspeak!
Sorry me old... but that sounds awfully like management yukspeak!
May be it is yukspeak...but it's true. You only have to look at what they have done to the ATSA EFD training package to see what "customer focus" looks like.
Keep up the good work guys.