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Old 15th Oct 2010, 21:32
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Feckin MOL

He was heard during that French strike on Irish radio saying he doen't know why Irish controllers can't control the French Airspace during the strike remotely. The technology is there, apparently. Seeing as we are overpaid and underworked anyway!

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Old 15th Oct 2010, 21:46
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Only 11 years to go then Radar, looking forward to it?

Thorisgood I'd like to say that MO'L is suffering from Foot-in-mouthitis, however, as usual, I think his foot is firmly rammed up another orifice.
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 21:59
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Lon,

How ya doin'? 10 years, 2 months and 15 days ...... but he!, who's counting?

Quite enjoying myself at the moment, if the truth be told. Does that make me certifiable?
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 22:23
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fish two types of controllers

There are two major groups of controllers. Practical=efficient, and theoretical=not so efficient.

You will find both types, at all atc-units. So the answer to your question: You will find excellent controllers at the smallest towers, and largest ACCs
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Ah, Hickers good response but can you do the Times Crossword and radar at the same time yet?

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can you do the Times Crossword and radar at the same time yet
No but I knew a trainee at Abbotsinch who could. almost never looked up from the paper. All went well until his mentor said, "What about the steamroller on the runway?" so a Guardsvan was duly instructed to make a last minute overshoot along a deserted runway; shortly followed by a no coffee or biscuits talk with the Supervisor
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Old 16th Oct 2010, 09:58
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Xword

Ha V !

Lon nice story! The joke from V was that he trained me in TMA, and usually sat behind the paper while I worked. Once when I had a little 'issue' I checked and he was buried in the paper. Thought I had got away with it. Then a quiet voice from within the Times...
"bit tight isn't it?"
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Old 16th Oct 2010, 15:25
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Radar,
10 years, 2 months and 15 days ...... but he!, who's counting?
You're right not to count too much.
Have you read the figure 106, page 90 in the PRR ?

Since last Tuesday, our retirement age rose from 57 to 59 in France...
Watch your step when you enter the FABEC ! Good luck...


Vercingetorix,
(In memory of the Spaniards thread...)
can you do the Times Crossword and radar at the same time yet?
Is doing the times crosswords while working more professional than wandering for few seconds when something weird is happening in the room ?
That's not an attack, I don't need an answer : I think any controller has the ability to do it depending on the traffic (if he/she likes crosswords).
That's just a reminder for those who insulted Spanish controllers after the video and now think it's funny doing crosswords...
But Spanish are Spanish, I'm sure they deserved it...
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Old 16th Oct 2010, 16:02
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@ RKHickson
My respect for that open invitation and I shall definitely have it in mind should I manage to nick the keys from the Aena henchman who chained us to our posts. Being spaniard, his machine-gun is probably out of order and his weapons permit and training more than two years expired...

@ BrATCO
I was about to share some updates on the spanish atc thread as soon as I find it... I think it's buried some way over there...
By the way, could you just explain how do you manage to be able to be on strike ... not once but several times this year? And also effectively if the fuel reserves at the Paris airports is an indicator.
(We would like to be on strike sometimes, too, but our state doesn't allow it... hmmmm... probably the fact that you live in a democracy has something to do with it)

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 06:59
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can you do the Times Crossword and radar at the same time yet?

This was from an age when men were men and women were glad of it! (At that time only French controllers carried handbags).

N.B. All those who where erudite enough to do the Times crossword were also extremely professional and none, I repeat none, ever had anything approximating to an airprox in their entire careers.

Of course, as I am now a SMS certified trainer I would take the newspaper away from any miscreant.

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 14:31
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(At that time only French controllers carried handbags).
N.B. All those who where erudite enough to do the Times crossword were also extremely professional and none, I repeat none, ever had anything approximating to an airprox in their entire careers.
No doubt about that !
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 15:32
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Shut up bitches.

We all know that Copenhagen ATCOs drink the most beer and play the best soccer and THAT my friends, is a hell of a good controller.
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 16:01
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Surely the best are in Hong Kong. Not only the best but are also the most arrogant!
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 16:09
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Cool

Surely the best are in Hong Kong. Not only the best but are also the most arrogant!
Wrong tense, mate. I've left now.
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 18:08
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efficient

Fortunately it was the efficient ones wearing the hats, and not in the office making the rules !!

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 18:14
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TMA

I remember being trained on TMA years ago. It seems that mentors always read the Guardian.
I encountered an unusal problem and eventually had to descend an outbound.
Head appears from the Guardian and says `First time i`ve ever seen an outbound descended. He peered at the screen momentarily....and went back to his Guardian.
There may be a number of elderly controllers who remember this as it became a bit of a talking point.

Happy Days.

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 20:26
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best controllers

Good for Len Vass.

We Brits are the best controllers. We don`t say so.....but we are told so !!!

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 20:30
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TMA

Does that include me....maybe in both respects, in the tower at EGBB and as a TMA controller for many years ?

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 20:36
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TMA UAS

Easier in UAS than in the TMA ?.... Having done both, including Aerodrome, Approach, Approach Radar, Area and Area Radar I think they can all be as easy or as complex, at any given moment.

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 20:41
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radar

Regarding a tower or approach controller coping with a radar failure, IMHO, surely it is the approach radar controller who should be worried !

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