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The current restrictions are based on engine manufacturers' guidance which state that aircraft engines should be exposed to a zero rate of volcanic ash. The CAA and other authorities are working with these manufacturers to see whether new evidence and risk assessment can enable safe flight at agreed levels of ash exposure. CAA update on volcanic ash situation | CAA Newsroom | CAA
Is there a significant increase in transatlantic traffic using the New York/Santa Maria OCAs?
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Airspace is not closed. There are restrictions on IFR flights in Class A, that's all.
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With apologies to OTB, coz this isn't quite UK airspace I'm talking about, but I just saw the first traffic (apart from the odd twitcher) in a week go overhead. (S E France)
Since normally I can see 2-12 at high level from 0600-0100 at any one time, it was quite a surprise.
....and two minutes after I posted that, the Monday Beat-Up happened. Its usually Monday, two Mirages, low level, over or very near my house. Today is Tuesday, and it was just one.Ye Cannae Whack It :-)))))
Since normally I can see 2-12 at high level from 0600-0100 at any one time, it was quite a surprise.
....and two minutes after I posted that, the Monday Beat-Up happened. Its usually Monday, two Mirages, low level, over or very near my house. Today is Tuesday, and it was just one.Ye Cannae Whack It :-)))))
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Where did you read that AI? NATS web site is stating that a review will be promulgated at 2200.
NATS website:
NATS website:
As soon as revised accurate information is available from the MET Office on the location of the dense ash cloud, NATS will review airspace availability and provide an update to airline operators on any airspace that has been restricted for safety reasons. We will issue a further statement by 2200
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'We will issue a further statement by 2200'
So, Terrible bloody timekeeping.
So, Nothing new there then. Moving forward eh?
So, Terrible bloody timekeeping.
So, Nothing new there then. Moving forward eh?
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All I am saying is, very Interesting tonight. From those BAW that have just landed. 
(going over my house)
This is not over yet - not even close.
(going over my house)This is not over yet - not even close.
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I really hope that CAA, NATS and the DoT have not caved into pressure from Willie Walsh ( An arrogant, nasty piece of work) and the rest of the Airlines! Let's hope that we were really over reacting after all and Eric Moody was totally mistaken as to why all his engines stopped!!!!
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Mine's now a Dodge Journey - ughh. Had to give back the Charger, doesn't hold 6!!
Wish I was back home under the old Amber 25 just South of BADUR looking up at the night sky, watching the old life fly by with a few shooting stars, occasional satellite and a glass of plonk in hand. Unfortunately, stuck in Canada, with a misty/ashy sky waiting til....who knows when.
Only get Super Etendards beating-up the local French airfield, back home. Can you send some of your Mirages up to NW France to liven things up a bit?
Mine's now a Dodge Journey - ughh. Had to give back the Charger, doesn't hold 6!!
Wish I was back home under the old Amber 25 just South of BADUR looking up at the night sky, watching the old life fly by with a few shooting stars, occasional satellite and a glass of plonk in hand. Unfortunately, stuck in Canada, with a misty/ashy sky waiting til....who knows when.
Only get Super Etendards beating-up the local French airfield, back home. Can you send some of your Mirages up to NW France to liven things up a bit?
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life fly by with a few shooting stars, occasional satellite and a glass of plonk in hand
Hear that sort of behaviour can be quite addictive.
Let me know when u have the fire lit - if you ever get back!
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BBC News - Ash ban to remain for most of UK
Clearly, the BBC doesn't believe that NATS is an acronym.
Bearing in mind that flight beneath FL200 was condidered hazardous, what would have been the safe procedure for handling an emergency descent? I'm thinking in terms of, say, a pressurisation loss.
I asked the question on R&N but it was either too stupid or too difficult.
Nats has allowed for "overflights" - flights that pass over UK airspace at an altitude above 20,000 feet - allowing for many flights between Europe and the Middle East and North America.
Bearing in mind that flight beneath FL200 was condidered hazardous, what would have been the safe procedure for handling an emergency descent? I'm thinking in terms of, say, a pressurisation loss.
I asked the question on R&N but it was either too stupid or too difficult.
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<<Clearly, the BBC doesn't believe that NATS is an acronym.>>
It certainly was, but my understanding is that it is no longer and "Nats" means nothing. Totally and utterly stupid IMHO.
It certainly was, but my understanding is that it is no longer and "Nats" means nothing. Totally and utterly stupid IMHO.
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The next time an ash cloud descends on us we must get all the CEOs of the major European airlines, and IATA, to jump into their newest and most expensive aircraft and head towards the source. This will aid research and when the whining of the engines, and their whinging stops, then we'll know it's not safe to fly there!
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alert 5:
If you knock on someones door hard enough and for long enough, I'm pretty sure they would let you in. Or call the police. I guess NATS had forgotten the local police number.
I really hope that CAA, NATS and the DoT have not caved into pressure from Willie Walsh ( An arrogant, nasty piece of work) and the rest of the Airlines! Let's hope that we were really over reacting after all and Eric Moody was totally mistaken as to why all his engines stopped!!!!
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I think that my next trip will be by boat or train!
Second, more powerful Icelandic volcano likely to explode soon - Europe, World - The Independent
Second, more powerful Icelandic volcano likely to explode soon - Europe, World - The Independent
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Looking forward to getting back. Try and save some plonk for you. Fire will be lit on day one of return just need some help with keeping it stoked. How's SIKOU going?
Looking forward to getting back. Try and save some plonk for you. Fire will be lit on day one of return just need some help with keeping it stoked. How's SIKOU going?