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Gretchen Burrett to leave NATS

Old 7th Jan 2010, 09:51
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Gretchen Burrett to leave NATS

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She done good!

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 11:44
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Is she someone famous? I worked for NATS for 39 years and never heard of her.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 12:08
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CRASH! I heard a glass ceiling break ;-) I think she's just the right person to make the lumbering dinosaurs in CAA sit up, take notice and bring themselves into the 21st century, gonna be an uphill struggle though.

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 12:13
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Is she someone famous? I worked for NATS for 39 years and never heard of her.
You've never heard of the Director of Safety?

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 12:40
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Me neither, but I've only been with NATS for 18 years.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 12:48
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It is a pity that there is not a Brit worthy of this UK post..........

I've only heard of her since leaving nats. Did she ever visit the TC shop floor and talk to the troops, I wonder....
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 13:18
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Never heard of her, and one could hardly forget such an weird name..

M.. she probably thinks "shop floor" is where your feet are in Tesco's.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 13:23
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As a humble shop floor worker, I have spoken with her on a number of occasions. In my experience she made herself visible and available to anyone who wanted to speak to her and there were no safety related 'taboo' subjects.

Don't agree with everything she's ever said in her NATS roles, but she will be a loss to the organisation.
 
Old 7th Jan 2010, 13:43
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Go on then, I'm intrigued. What exactly does, or did, a director of safety do?
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What exactly does, or did, a director of safety do?
Takes credit for all the airproxes we don't have and when we have one she takes the blame.......
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 14:41
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Takes credit for all the airproxes we don't have and when we have one she takes the blame.......
Not quite correct

Takes credit for all the airproxes we don't have and when we have one she apportions the blame.......

She is a manager after all!!

Must admit I did know who she was, but I am not sure what safety measures she implemented in her tenure. Maybe someone from the Division of Safety can illuminate me.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 14:52
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How do you spell miss odgenney? Seems like this is the place to learn.

Warped & BD - not you, just the old farts.

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 15:51
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For those who have not met her she is American and has a bit of a background in aviation and safety:

Gretchen has a strong aviation background, having served in the US Air Force, flown jet and piston aircraft, and led a multi-national team of test pilots and aircraft designers through the development and execution of a new approach to operational performance and safety certification.

Gretchen is an internationally recognised expert in human factors, and respected throughout the industry for her knowledge and leadership of safety performance
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has worked in nuclear certification and safety of intercontinental ballistic missiles, joint airworthiness trials for military aircraft, design and development of defence systems, and as an expert advisor to NATO on human performance and safety critical systems..

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 17:33
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It will be an interesting time for the CAA SRG people...especially for some of the Air Traffic Department!
 
Old 7th Jan 2010, 17:58
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So it seems she has a comprehensive background in US miltary aviation but nothing in US or UK civil aviaition. Should fit in nicely at SRG as most of those are experienced in the military world but have zilch experience in the civil world.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 18:00
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Plain enough on the NATS site (second down for those who need glasses)

Judging by some of the comments, time to merge with the dinosaurs' thread?
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 18:31
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I, too, have had the pleasure of meeting Gretchen through work & chatting with her. Without exception, I've always parted knowing more than I did before, & never left in any doubt that she believes in all the people she works with, whatever their specific role. The NATS I see has a far better understanding of what being safe really means. It's disappointing that certain people still feel the need to talk about apportioning blame - I've never heard her talk in those terms. And what is this weird ATCO hang up with dismantling peoples life history, looking for perceived holes? She has easily 10+ years involved civil UK ATC - or does working for NATS not count?
Most people reache a point where they feel the urge to move onwards - & she's leaving a legacy that her colleagues can be proud of. I wish her the best of luck in her new role.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 18:33
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Some great stuff here.
"certification and safety of intercontinental ballistic missiles".
Surely these things are, by definition, extremely dangerous.
"the lumbering dinosaurs in CAA".
Ah, dinosaurs, some of the most successful animals ever. - Lasted 130 Million years. Thats considerably longer than the usual tenure of a NATS director or 'butterfly' manager, eh BD.

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 18:39
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A great loss for NATS. I'm a fan it has to be said.

It tells us something that those who have assumed and criticised on this thread have not met her.

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Old 7th Jan 2010, 19:18
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Absolutely agree, a great loss. Hopefully will shake SRG up, that is one organisation in definite need of a wakeup.

I'm surprised the number of people posted above who have never heard of her!

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