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Old 12th Jan 2010, 21:01
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In many parts of the world...Police Officer only refers to those above the rank of Sergeant.

Southern Actor and Whatumean...I still say that who cares what other people are getting called and paid. you get paid to do your job...do it!
BTW you are breaking my heart with the "oh my God we had it so tough" attitude...try working for a living outside in the freezing rain or in the burning sun, for amounts that we would pay in tax, then you may appreciate your perks of the air-conditioned office, relaxed dress code, relaxes working conditions and hours etc.
People do seem to take themselves just too seriously.

Whatumean...AsA (and all their previous incarnations) were pretty good in the old days, Oman were pretty good when I was there, UAE were pretty good when I was there and Ireland are pretty good now.
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Old 13th Jan 2010, 03:41
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atc to atmo

The biggest issue here is...
not the name- rose by any other name is still a rose
maybe the downgrading of the ATC profession -How can a radio operator's license be equal to that of an ATC licence? Flight info service stations are just relaying stations for ATC-Pilot messages.

But The real issue here is SAFETY. How can an FSIS personnel be able to control traffic? I know for a fact that most of the personnel in these communication facilities flunked their atc subjects and does not qualify to be ATCs. Now you tell me, they'll be doing ATC work as well? VERY DANGEROUS! The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines should rethink this through.
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Old 15th Jan 2010, 09:59
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But The real issue here is SAFETY. How can an FSIS personnel be able to control traffic? I know for a fact that most of the personnel in these communication facilities flunked their atc subjects and does not qualify to be ATCs. Now you tell me, they'll be doing ATC work as well? VERY DANGEROUS! The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines should rethink this through.
Surely FIS people can not just immediately begin providing ATC service if their job title is changed?! You need to have the appropriate license and ratings first, and I can't imagine any CAA allowing provision of service without people having passed the proper training and received the ratings etc.
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Old 15th Jan 2010, 23:21
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Ahhh, is this FINALLY the crux of the issue?

Nickwings, finally we see what it is you are on about! Why did you (and others) not say this in the first place?

jaker has it right, they can't just "give" someone ratings to control aircraft...surely?
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Old 16th Jan 2010, 02:01
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Our CAA sends people overseas for training to (somehow) enhance safety. They comeback with this solution; make everybody ATCs and call them ATMOs. Now isn't that clever or what? Very safe indeed.

I wouldn't be surprised when one day I report for work and see the cleaner wearing a headset.
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