Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

RNAS Brawdy - HMS Goldcrest History?

ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

RNAS Brawdy - HMS Goldcrest History?

Old 14th Dec 2008, 09:34
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: wherever I lay my headset
Posts: 538
RNAS Brawdy - HMS Goldcrest History?

I am currently researching the History of RN Air Traffic Control - and asking for info on the navy's time in charge of Brawdy airfield in Pembrokeshire - known as HMS Goldcrest.

I believe the RAF opened it on 04 August 1942... when did they hand it over to the RN?

The Runway was extended in 1963... (but I have accounts of possible earlier extension in early 50s when jets first arrived... can anyone confirm this?)

Handed back to RAF 01 April 1971. Usual website have little more, has anyone got any info - other dates, ATC equipment, procedures?

What I have Cossor 787 radar and Army 4Mk7 radar... Hunter 1in1s (remembered fondly from my days at VL). DF procedures, I have a dit about the QGH pattern descending down through airway Green 1 - (but no one realised until the first radars were installed)... etc

Presume GCA/PAR was the RN standard kit (CPN4) - when did it arrive?

If you have photos even better. Look forward to hearing from you.
Pierre Argh is offline  
Old 14th Dec 2008, 11:25
  #2 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hants
Posts: 2,295
not much Mr B, but try these


Dale Marloes St Ishmaels St. Brides Local History

Handed over to RN 01/01/46 according to :

RAF Brawdy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
anotherthing is offline  
Old 14th Dec 2008, 17:18
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: wherever I lay my headset
Posts: 538
DM thanks for the PM...

I have learnt the RN and RAF swopped Angle / Dale and that Dale was commissioned as Goldcrest in Sept 43 but some years later, when runway extension was impractical, and repair was too costly the Admiralty decided to put their effort into nearby Brawdy - which was also named Goldcrest (when Dale closed - It seems naval practise to call satellite airfields after their parent, rather than a heirarchical title... i.e Goldcrest (secondary) rather than Goldcrest (the second))
Pierre Argh is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2008, 05:27
  #4 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 337
Check your PMs.
Argus is offline  
Old 8th Jun 2013, 23:42
  #5 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: chorley, Lancashire, England
Age: 71
Posts: 1
HMS Goldcrest ATC

Hi I served at HMS Goldcrest from 1966 to 1971( with a couple of breaks aboard HMS Hermes & Ark Royal) when the RAF took over. My branch was Aircraft Handler, My specialisation was crash rescue firesuitman but our branch was ATC trained and supplied the ratings who manned the tower. Unlike the RAF we had a crash & rescue unit on the pan at the beginning of the duty runway with a Runway Control Van manned by the fire crew (wheel watch and able to take over the circuit in an emergency) (believe it or not it was a Bedford QL the date on the engine plate was 1941) All Leading Airmen ( RAF equivalent was Corporal) had to pass the local controllers course at RAF Shawbury and could run the circuit as required.

We had an large variety of aircraft put their wheels down on the two serviceable runways including AEW Gannets, Hunters, Vampires, Meteors, Canberras, Bregeut Alize, Hastings, Nord Atlas (bringing the German Panzer crews for training at Morbier) and many more ,even a two seat Spitfire in an emergency during the Atlantic Air race. With Vulcans & Nimrod doing rollers. As to the technical aspects I,m afraid that has disappeared from my memory after 40+ years but get back to me if you think I could help (I have a lot of memories about day to day events bye from Bobbyjack
bobbyjack is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2018, 11:44
  #6 (permalink)  
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 5
I served there twice in the middle 50s both on the fire crew and in ATC after 1st commissioning Eagle. in Nov 51.
We lived in Seco huts (before the built modern accomodation.)

At that time of first posting....t he NAFFI Cinema and Church and wardroom were Nissen huts.....The tower had rough wooden floors and the ground floor so called GCA Room (empty bar for gooseneck flares) had salt dropping off the walls!
was posted to Eagle (again) and returned to Brawdy in 1956......new buildings -luxury!! The sick bay was down the road near Brawdy Turn...outside the main station.

The Dartmouth Squadron operated from Brawdy with Balliol aircraft t a few Seahawk squadrons were also there.
Brawdy hosted the AIRWORK aircraft conversion unit at St Davids for night flying when dive bombing also took place on a target in St Brides Bay. Meteor aircraft were used.......

"Winkle" Brown was Commander (Air) ( I did his typing as it was found I could type ok!) He and I went off in an S51 chopper looking for the Moby Dick rubber whale that broke adrift from the film crew in Cardigan Bay..never found it...

"Hoagy" Carmichael (he was reputed to have 'killed' a MIG flying a SeaFury over Korea)..was Little 'F' and I think Cameron VC (X-sub & Tirpitz fame) was Commander with either D.C.E.F Gibson as Captain (Guy's brother). or it was Stoving - Bradford. (its and age thing)!

Nice place in Summer...hell on earth in winter up on that hill above Newgale Beach!! I remember the Met Office there recorded a 120 knot gust of wind that collapsed a hangar sideways over a squadron of Seahawks...That gust also removed the roof of the fire crew's Seco hut. These huts adjoined a farm, beyond which, up a slope of about 1/2 mile were the western hangars.
The farmer on the western edge of the airfield used to take pot shots at the Hawks as they taxiied past his place!!

Last edited by BRIEFING OFFICER; 11th Sep 2018 at 13:11. Reason: amended

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.