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"G'day" VS AIP

Old 17th Nov 2008, 04:33
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javelin: CAUTION!

Some people have a head very well suited to radio and not television, if you catch my drift......

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Old 17th Nov 2008, 05:11
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Haha luckily with a pair of binos from the tower we are often in a position to assess that.

Sadly it doesn't work in reverse for them.
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Old 18th Nov 2008, 09:09
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Yes it does. If you get close enough.

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Old 18th Nov 2008, 10:11
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Well, we need someone in Sing Radar to prove or disprove
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Old 3rd Jan 2009, 03:04
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Mactrim,

To date I'm one of those jack offs that says "Approach G'day ABC cleared to FL120, go ahead".

What I'm trying to do is make your job easier ( I am ready for the clearance, pen in hand ).

With a normal change freq and when going to be given a clearance/STAR, I believe it cuts an ATC transmission out, I.E. "ABC, Stand by for STAR" ( or similar, sorry don't have my jepps with me for exact phraseology ).

Am I wrong ?.
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Old 3rd Jan 2009, 05:59
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i also use in my rt when i am in shift Good Morning/day/evening ... and good bye/day/luck when aircraft leave my sector .. also on holidays i can say marry Christmas, happy new year ... or smth like this
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I like my good ole'....."Tata"

Smoothie....
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Old 4th Jan 2009, 11:46
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Head for radio

Some people have a head very well suited to radio and not television, if you catch my drift......
...and you my good friend NFR, are an excellent case in point!
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Old 4th Jan 2009, 14:18
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Oy! I resemble that remark!



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Old 4th Jan 2009, 14:30
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I always use "bye now" or in this neck of the woods "visu labu" unless it is mindlessly busy. On initial I will use "Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening", or the local equivalent should I know it.

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Old 4th Jan 2009, 17:41
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I have usually found that the pedantic, have to be absolutely correct ICAO phraseology types hide behind their pedantic ways to hide the fact that they are lousy controllers, and that was true in what was, AMML and APPH in my day, and also in EGLL, EGCC, EGFF and London ACC. Did my 20 years and met quite a few.
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Old 11th Jan 2009, 21:49
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I say nothing (Good day,G.day, good Bye, Bye-Bye........etc) even though pilot tell me on inital contact or leaving my frequency.

Do you think I am rude?
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Old 12th Jan 2009, 00:58
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No, just busy or having a bad day.
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Old 12th Jan 2009, 02:08
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Who cares really, we are nice to each other, pilots or controllers.
Pilots often greet ATC with a "hello" in that country's language.
And controllers, often return the greeting in our language.
xxx
Has been like that since long ago. At least on VHF...
On HF, we tend to remain somewhat more procedural, initial call etc.
The issue is not "being professional or not"...
Concentrate your attention to your professionalism in your job.
Not about ridiculous details as this is.
xxx
Chau... (South American Spanish for "ciao")...

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Old 12th Jan 2009, 11:27
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I pretty much always use Gday when transferring aircraft to the next frequencies. Guess its become a habit after 20 plus years and take no offence if it is not reciprocated.
I'm not big on Merry Xmas when I'm sitting at work on Chrissy Day, I try to stick to just Gday so I'm not reminded of what I'm missing (again). Its like a plague, one pilot throws it in and then everyone else feels dutybound to do it so they don't sound like a miserable bastard. It dies out for a half hour or so and then someone else pipes in with it, and off we go again.

I listen to a fair bit of talkback radio on the ABC, and admire the hosts who are asked by nearly every caller " How are you" and never reply "Well nothing much has happened in the last 45 seconds since the last caller asked so I'm still good, now will you get on with it". Lots of self control on the ABC.
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