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Old 23rd May 2009, 11:29
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Investing in real estate

Hello all.

Now that it seems feasible to buy instead of renting house/flats in the UAE do you have any good advice when doing business with the real estate dealers or developers/contractors?
Any one badly "burnt"
Is it expensive to run properties, f.ex. property taxes, insurance, water, electricity etc.?
Is it maybe something one should avoid at all costs?
All information much appreciated.

Cheerio.
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Old 23rd May 2009, 18:46
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Emirates College

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I just wanted to ask. Who knows, what is going on in Emirates Aviation College? I heard, that they have closed the ATC department. Who knows the reasons?"

Unfortunately yes the ATC college at Emirates has closed. It is a shame as they were just starting to get going properly with a decent instructor. A few things happened which helped those high up to make the decision, but ultimately it was linked to the credit crunch and emirates cutting back on expenditure.
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Old 29th May 2009, 16:27
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Dubai - Jebel Ali SERCO Contract

Rumours are SERCO have finally signed the much awaited contract, which was extended from 31st Dec 2008...up to 31st May 2009.....

Payrise has been mentioned........ but don't hold your breath, if one thinks it will reflect the inflation!

New office management re-shuffle.....

Uncle E retiring, & 'snakes & ladders' the order of the day, in the office.....

Jebel Ali personnel.......?????

New SUP too in new position......

What else??? unpaid leave?
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Old 29th May 2009, 17:04
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We have no grass...
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Old 29th May 2009, 23:05
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Based on the other thread you started Canoehead, any grass we did have I think you smoked!
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Good to see you back dude. How was Monaco, up to your expectations I trust.
From his posts, I think mushrooms and grass are nowhere near strong enough for canoehead.
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Old 30th May 2009, 03:06
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Foxy, I was simply finishing a thread originally titled GUAE-ACC which (I suppose), the moderators have deleted.
It involved an epic battle between a Gaul (masquerading as a Brit), a bunch of Afrikaners, and a not so great Dane. It was getting quite nasty, actually...

And as for the grass, I say again, we have none. I think...
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Old 30th May 2009, 19:13
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Oooooooh....now I understand, I think!

Yip back again Roj, Monaco was quite a distraction as you would expect
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Old 31st May 2009, 15:39
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hei Yahoo

We've lost another half dozen from Heathrow this month to the middle east; i'm starting to wonder whether the grass is in fact greener
Presently the grass is definitely NOT greener.......

With the so called increase of 3% for line crews & 5% for Senior Officers & +, it definitely does NOT reflect on the Inflation......

& to DWC Staff, it's definitely just sand & NO grass!!

At least we got a long contract signed for a good couple of years!!
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Old 1st Jun 2009, 08:41
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I completely agree with Yellow`s sentiments. Dubai is not only somewhere that you can live a lifestyle not possible in Uk but also surprisingly easy to get by on a tight budget if you have to.

One thing that I would add to the above is and for me one of the biggest reasons to recommend the place is simply the quality and experience of the controllers that I work with as in that respect it is an outstanding unit.

The grass is so green that my maid has trouble getting it off my golf shoes!!
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Old 1st Jun 2009, 10:04
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Green grass of home

There is no doubt that in terms of money there is nowhere better to be than Dubai (even with just 3% increase). As for lifestyle it all depends what you are in for. This place which resembles nothing else but a plastic jungle, is nice if you like shopping and hanging out. If you are the outdoor type then you are locked in for 6 months a year. Of course you can play golf at this time of the year (get a good deal) and get a third degree sunburn or die of severe dehydration. I guess if you are from the U.K. or anywhere really north its much much better than the dreary drizzle and the cloudy skies you get home.

Still noone can deny its a country with no soul and I have heard it so many times now I cannot but agree wholeheartedly.
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Old 1st Jun 2009, 14:49
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Holy Crap......ye are a Jolly bunch (pardon the intended pun!!!!)

Do I hear the subtle sound of someones rattle being flung to the floor??? Did someone crap their nappy???

I completely agree with Yellow Snow and Tower Ranger....We've heard it ALL before. You won't get a better lifestyle, (well you probably will, but, i'm here and not there!!). Your earning damn good money here. High cost
of living my arse! Yes there are issues such as the high cost of schooling, etc. But you tell me you'd be better off back at home. Well? I think not. Many of my buddies are envious of the position i'm in given the circumstances elsewhere. I say again...if your not happy, go home! Its that simple...

Now i'm off to the beach to watch the sunset......
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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 10:28
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It would be ideal if one knows the FAA SALARIES... & then certainly one comes to grips to reality, as they are much better than the Salaries here...

The difference lies in the so called 'tax-free' world we are in.......

'tax-free'......... on income ONLY!
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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 10:39
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FAA salaries so much better??? I think not, especially not on an hourly basis! Sure there are probably some on $200,000 a year (also in Canada) but that means a LOT of overtime and way less leave to start with. Also consider the difference between the old FAA salaries and that being applied to new joiners.

If you have a straight choice between Serco Dubai and NATS, I'd pick Dubai every time.
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@ANSA

You're barking up the wrong tree if you say the FAA conditions are better than the UAE
You really need to learn how to read in between the lines!

Try again......
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I was old pay scale FAA - one of the highest paid employees at the busiest facilities. I take home more money in the UAE and spend more quality time with my family in the states now ( a couple of uninterupted weeks a year).

And to the Verci guy - I've been here for 9 months. I've never met you. I'm sure you think your past presence here is some great talking point/story/bar tale - but you are a nobody here. I don't know your real name. All I know is that when I looked at moving here all I found was negative stuff by you. I fear alot of people see your negative posts and think it's real. Fortunately, you don't seem to know what your talking about. Please shut up and stop talking about OUR unit. Not yours. You are gone.
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You da man!! Well summed up, the Vercibindorkeswankurus is as unwelcome now as he was then!
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Yes!

At last this thread has got interesting again, instead of all the crap that's been on here for the past few months.
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We all know what kinda sh!t NATS offers to its staff...somehow the PENSION comes to my mind, so we do not even want to go there!

I agree with most of you about the 3% & the other 5% increase, is somewhat , as we all know in what financial crisis the world is in. However, one must also remember that we were verbally told that a potential increase would reflect the inflation +/- around 10%, AND FROM 1st JANUARY 2009.....

Or is it that some of us have forgotten this?

Anyway, 'beggars can't be choosers', we are all riding the same wave, & hopefully things will turn for the better around us!

What our mates down @ DWC have gone through is rather harsh, but let's really see when this Mega Airport (if it will really be MEGA) will finally open...

And what does our CONTRACT really mean? just a piece of paper???? ready to be binned?
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You really hit the nail on the head Tin-bullet there. We were promised at least 10% from January and I am one who did not forget that. Now all the office guys get 5% while we sweat it out with three. Not bad!!

As for the contract's worth, just ask the DWC guys what they were promised (over and over again) and what they got eventually, it says a lot about Serco and its management.

Serco will always be a profit making company but if it starts playing about with contracts as it feels best then we are going to go back to the times when people were not even thinking of coming here.

Still a good deal for now but ears and eyes open for whom you cannot trust!
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