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Old 14th Jul 2008, 17:19
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Help! Can I pass?

So I did my Stage 1 selection today at London... but in addition to the multiple choice questionnaire featuring some general knowledge questions with nothing to do with the source material, (but I think I still did fine on) they had the bloody spatial reasoning test... and I think I did horribly. Whereas I completed the other two, diagramming and basic checking, on spatial reasoning I only answered just over half of the questions, with a couple being guesses. Am I doomed to fail, or is the pass mark for that section low/every section is taken into account to produce an overall score? Thanks - I can't bare to wait three weeks only to find out I've failed on spatial reasoning.
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Hi,
From past experience of these types of test I think you may just need to wait it out. Typically, tests of this type are normalised to others who have taken the test (i.e not expressed simply as a percentage of what you really scored, but how you performed relative to everyone else who sat the test).

I believed that the spatial reasoning test was a typical test for NATS, so how come it was a surprise that it featured in your assessment?(am I missing something, isn't the spatial reasoning paper not always used at stage 1?).


Anyway, good luck. These things are not always as bad as you initially fear.
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controlling planes that involves putting a certain amount of 'SPACE' between them.... what bastards putting spatial reasoning into a selection test for a job.
i suppose you would be surprised to be asked about the periodic table if you were applying to be a chemistry teacher eh?
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controlling planes that involves putting a certain amount of 'SPACE' between them....

A job awaits him at CFMU
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or NASA.

Come to think of it, with that level of technical knowledge, he must be destined for management!
 
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Pity about the bad language and poor grammar in this thread...... Makes you wonder what sort of people are applying nowadays.
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irrelevant
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Handbags Ladies!
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 11:25
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No no no, I knew spatial reasoning was going to be on the test... I didn't know the cube was going to be placed in really weird positions. But all I want to know is if (from someone's past experience) the pass mark includes other sections or is based on every section individually?

And I didn't come here for insults, I came here for an answer to a question. If you don't have it, go elsewhere. Thank you to those who did
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 11:29
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You have to pass each section individually. I think the pass mark is quite high but your not expected to answer every question. Good luck
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 11:31
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Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. I'll just wait for three weeks now then :/
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from my days 10 years ago i seem to remember they were designed not to be finished and they were looking for accuracy, speed will come over time. That is certainly how atco training is applied, safety first and then expedition.

One without the other is no good either way but the accuracy/safety is the first issue. Fast but inaccurate / unsafe is never a good idea
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Well, I take comfort in the fact the controller there who talked to us actually failed on the same bit I think I did badly on. He apparently practised afterwards by imagining shapes and the position of the sides in relation to each other and passed it the second time - so it does appear to be a skill that can be honed through practice.

But anyway, case closed, thanks for the replies!
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