NATS Experienced Controller Recruitment
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Beware. "NATS would not normally grant Secondary Employment in the case of part time working". By adopting this misguided policy they are depriving themselves of most significant experience. Their loss.
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As Barnaby the Bear said, NATS are looking for ATCOs for Farnborough, the closing date for applications is today.
So given the fact there are no more adverts for experienced ATCOs on the NATS website and they have now got enough ATCOs to run Farnborough then does this mean NATS and all of it's units are fully staffed
So given the fact there are no more adverts for experienced ATCOs on the NATS website and they have now got enough ATCOs to run Farnborough then does this mean NATS and all of it's units are fully staffed
Not all applicants have been interviewed yet; GM Farnborough is on hols., so keep the applications coming.
As TDM says, restrictions such as he states deter some people, but there are also age limits which applicants may not be aware of.
As TDM says, restrictions such as he states deter some people, but there are also age limits which applicants may not be aware of.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
As TDM says, restrictions such as he states deter some people, but there are also age limits which applicants may not be aware of.
Apart from the payism!
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Interesting how for Farnborough " Not all applicants have been interviewed yet" when the closing date was only a couple of days ago (Hence the post??) Are they under some pressure to get the "London LARS" up and running??
I note from flight the ad said "Farnborough and various other locations"
I take it the various other locations havn't been asked exactly how many they are short!! (Just like everyone I gather)
They must have a fair few applicants to be appearing so choosy (Age, Pay, part time etc etc)
Good luck to anyone applying
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I note from flight the ad said "Farnborough and various other locations"
I take it the various other locations havn't been asked exactly how many they are short!! (Just like everyone I gather)
They must have a fair few applicants to be appearing so choosy (Age, Pay, part time etc etc)
Good luck to anyone applying
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Interesting how for Farnborough " Not all applicants have been interviewed yet" when the closing date was only a couple of days ago (Hence the post??) Are they under some pressure to get the "London LARS" up and running??
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Closing date is for applications, not interviews!
Obviously!!!!
Was just making the point that it is unusual to start interviewing people before the closing date for applications. Maybe they are granting an interview to everyone with the relevant qualifications????
Just curious
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Obviously!!!!
Was just making the point that it is unusual to start interviewing people before the closing date for applications. Maybe they are granting an interview to everyone with the relevant qualifications????
Just curious
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Maybe they are granting an interview to everyone with the relevant qualifications????
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In other Jobs it's fairly standard practice to set the closing date then sift through the applicants to decide who will be the most suitable candidates taking into account qualifications, experience, and any pertinent information presented on a CV or application form (Thats why we have CV's or application forms!!!) This saves you interviewing every man and his dog it is more cost effective in terms of having an interview panel who only need to sit for what are on paper the best candidates!!
I didn't set the thread up to develop into the usual petty Pprune slanging match. Merely out of interest as an outsider (not an applicant) to see what sort of interest NATS generate when they publicly recruit experienced controllers. This will probably, depending on numbers have an effect on non state units (hopefully positive in terms of a closer parity of pay and conditions)
Don't go taking offence at a perfectly reasonable question many do on this site!!!
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I didn't set the thread up to develop into the usual petty Pprune slanging match. Merely out of interest as an outsider (not an applicant) to see what sort of interest NATS generate when they publicly recruit experienced controllers. This will probably, depending on numbers have an effect on non state units (hopefully positive in terms of a closer parity of pay and conditions)
Don't go taking offence at a perfectly reasonable question many do on this site!!!
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Talkdownman:
Secondary working in the case of part time employment?
If you (or anyone else) is also employed as an ATCO elsewhere, it's extremely unlikely you'd be able to meet unit currency requirements, comply with SCRATCOH or, realistically, remain at a competent level of currency at either unit, especially if the NATS post was as demanding as, perhaps, Farnborough LARS.
As far as I understand it, with airfield operations, SRG will only grant dispensation for a second validation at a different unit, for the purposes of leave relief and then only the most onerous of circumstances.
Secondary working in the case of part time employment?
If you (or anyone else) is also employed as an ATCO elsewhere, it's extremely unlikely you'd be able to meet unit currency requirements, comply with SCRATCOH or, realistically, remain at a competent level of currency at either unit, especially if the NATS post was as demanding as, perhaps, Farnborough LARS.
As far as I understand it, with airfield operations, SRG will only grant dispensation for a second validation at a different unit, for the purposes of leave relief and then only the most onerous of circumstances.
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Mr. niknak.
I feel that you may have made an assumption here.
Who said anything about being employed as an ATCO elsewhere?
What if one was employed in a different discipline eg. gardener, plumber, newsagent or flying instructor? Why should nats have the temerity to dictate how one should manage one's life? It is not SRG ATSD who restrict validations at different units. History has proven that. It is not unheard of that Heathrow ATCOs themselves have held validations elsewhere and managed to comply with the requirements which you quote.
No, it seems that nats as a company cannot accept being the underdog and that, perish the thought, nats itself would be in a position as the secondary employer. There are experienced ATCOs out there who would be prepared to provide their services to help get this London LARS off the ground but not at the expense of a lifestyle change just to suit nats' intransigient attitude.
I feel that you may have made an assumption here.
Who said anything about being employed as an ATCO elsewhere?
What if one was employed in a different discipline eg. gardener, plumber, newsagent or flying instructor? Why should nats have the temerity to dictate how one should manage one's life? It is not SRG ATSD who restrict validations at different units. History has proven that. It is not unheard of that Heathrow ATCOs themselves have held validations elsewhere and managed to comply with the requirements which you quote.
No, it seems that nats as a company cannot accept being the underdog and that, perish the thought, nats itself would be in a position as the secondary employer. There are experienced ATCOs out there who would be prepared to provide their services to help get this London LARS off the ground but not at the expense of a lifestyle change just to suit nats' intransigient attitude.
NikNak: Knowing TDM I would have no qualms about him being able to maintain competency at more than one unit. As he says, other NATS ATCOs have done it in the past (eg. small airfield in south Bucks) and SRG often allow it for 'special events' with a reduced MER.
The main problem that could conceivably arise is that due to an incident at your 'secondary' unit, your licence is pulled so you cannot work operationally for NATS at your 'main' unit.
The main problem that could conceivably arise is that due to an incident at your 'secondary' unit, your licence is pulled so you cannot work operationally for NATS at your 'main' unit.