Ha Ha Ha, We're off to Kandahar!
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Bollockings all round
It is SAFESKYS or that well known Polish company SAFF ESSS SKEES
HINT (You need to know the joke about the origin of the company name. ) Ask gisajob
It is a tribute to LLoyd Brown's original company Skysafe !!
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It is a tribute to LLoyd Brown's original company Skysafe !!
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just checked the SS website (dont know how reliable it is) but they say decision due today, Fri 3 May...we,ll see.
I know one of the other bidders is Midwest ATC who currently manage/operate the Kabul contract which includes approach/twr/area (procedural for Afghan FIR).
I would suspect they would have the inside running with runs already on the board.
by the way Fox and SAS and others did you guys get the nod or not? PM me if you like.
rgds
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just checked the SS website (dont know how reliable it is) but they say decision due today, Fri 3 May...we,ll see.
I know one of the other bidders is Midwest ATC who currently manage/operate the Kabul contract which includes approach/twr/area (procedural for Afghan FIR).
I would suspect they would have the inside running with runs already on the board.
by the way Fox and SAS and others did you guys get the nod or not? PM me if you like.
rgds
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Ha Ha Ha, We're off to Kandahar!
Well are we....?????!!!! All gone very quiet.
Good timing though, just in time for the summer offensive which is starting to wind up quiet nicely....
Good timing though, just in time for the summer offensive which is starting to wind up quiet nicely....
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No not me, and to be honest, I am a little relieved as my initial concerns have not been allayed. I mean working in Kandahar is just not the same as say working in the UK, NZ, Oz etc is it? I would want to be working for a company that has done this sort of thing before and has the infrastructure to support such an undertaking. That said I guess this could be the big break SS is looking for, and I wish them well.
Anyway, the hot goss around here is that two from our (New Zealand) civil/mil sector have had job offers, and that one other is very interested.
Of the two offered, one's mother is not well, and so the smart money is on him not accepting just yet. The other, I understand is in the simulator for a while, with a new sector trainee, and so no one has been able to catch up with what is going on there.
I see from the SS website to day that the decision has been delayed AGAIN
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Anyway, the hot goss around here is that two from our (New Zealand) civil/mil sector have had job offers, and that one other is very interested.
Of the two offered, one's mother is not well, and so the smart money is on him not accepting just yet. The other, I understand is in the simulator for a while, with a new sector trainee, and so no one has been able to catch up with what is going on there.
I see from the SS website to day that the decision has been delayed AGAIN
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Concur.. good luck to Safeskys. No news is sometimes better than bad news. And for all those ATCO's willing and able that have volunteered and have been offered a tentative position ,, hope still lives... which is always a good thing I reckon!!
As an aside my local paper today highlighted the fact that the RAAF was about to deploy / establish a mobile ATC radar unit at Kandahar ??
Comments anyone??
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As an aside my local paper today highlighted the fact that the RAAF was about to deploy / establish a mobile ATC radar unit at Kandahar ??
Comments anyone??
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Well if the RAAF is sending the mobile radar control unit, they have a well qualified team that goes with it. This combined with their experience in Somalia, Iraq, Timor and the Solomons to mention a few theatres, there will be no need for overpriced civil contractors 
Whether the RAAF has the resources and the mandate...well that's another story
A sneaky peak at what makes up the RAAF Surveillance and Reconnaisance Group....
http://www.defence.gov.au/RAAF/organ...groups/srg.htm
Whether the RAAF has the resources and the mandate...well that's another story
A sneaky peak at what makes up the RAAF Surveillance and Reconnaisance Group....
http://www.defence.gov.au/RAAF/organ...groups/srg.htm
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HamoAus...
.........if you know anything about radars you will know that if you have an Air Defense radar you actually have a far more capable system. In fact I wish on a daily basis here in the middle east we had a patch to the air defense radar to extrapolate height data on the numerous unidentified targets that regularly reap havoc with our civil traffic. In Oman during the peak of the Afghan campaign I would regularly ask our military compatriots behind us if they could give us a height readout on US traffic that had turned up on the doorstep not talking to anyone running into the hundreds of paying punters with no mode C...or better still not tickling up the parrot at all!
My last ATC unit in Oz with the military used a derivative of an Air Defense radar and it did a fantastic job...in fact that was 14 years ago and it is still better than the cr*p we use here in UAE control!
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Additionally...
Not sure you read the duty statement...
No 44 Wing (44WG), headquartered at RAAF Base Williamtown, commands all of the Air Traffic Control (ATC) detachments of which there are eleven across Australia. 44WG also commands the ATC Technical Ground Electronic Services (GES) workforce. 44WG through its detachments is responsible for the delivery of aerodrome and radar control services to Army, Navy and Air Force and also for the provision of tactical control of forward airfields, battlefield aviation and other airspace activity, both within Australia and for operational deployments. 44WG personnel have been actively involved in a number of recent operations including Sudan, East Timor, Iraq/Middle East, Solomon Islands and Indonesia. Their roles have ranged from active operational duties to peacekeeping and humanitarian missions.
OK so they forgot Mogadishu International, I will forgive them for that, and as we were the first operational deployment since Vietnam...a little dissapointed
Not to worry, the guys and gals do a great job.
workingatco is that you gisajob ??!!!
No 44 Wing (44WG), headquartered at RAAF Base Williamtown, commands all of the Air Traffic Control (ATC) detachments of which there are eleven across Australia. 44WG also commands the ATC Technical Ground Electronic Services (GES) workforce. 44WG through its detachments is responsible for the delivery of aerodrome and radar control services to Army, Navy and Air Force and also for the provision of tactical control of forward airfields, battlefield aviation and other airspace activity, both within Australia and for operational deployments. 44WG personnel have been actively involved in a number of recent operations including Sudan, East Timor, Iraq/Middle East, Solomon Islands and Indonesia. Their roles have ranged from active operational duties to peacekeeping and humanitarian missions.
OK so they forgot Mogadishu International, I will forgive them for that, and as we were the first operational deployment since Vietnam...a little dissapointed
Not to worry, the guys and gals do a great job.workingatco is that you gisajob ??!!!
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RAAF AD Radar
Fox3snapshot,
I think you will find what HamoAus is refering to is the fact that although it is an air defence radar system, the only controllers going are air defence controllers. Last time I checked they weren't too good on the keeping the aircraft apart thing!
The AD radar may be better than what the ATC get, but it ain't much good to ATC if they aren't sitting in front of it.
Somniferous
I think you will find what HamoAus is refering to is the fact that although it is an air defence radar system, the only controllers going are air defence controllers. Last time I checked they weren't too good on the keeping the aircraft apart thing!
The AD radar may be better than what the ATC get, but it ain't much good to ATC if they aren't sitting in front of it.
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Bzzzzzzt....
The RAAF would deploy their ATC element with the radar. The same fundamental element that was the backbone of Baghdad International and the many other theaters that since October 1993 we have been formally involved in post Vietnam!
Air Defense, why the stuff would you need Air Defense controllers in Afghanistan or Iraq when you have no air threat and nothing to point the fighters at!
The Afghan and Iraq theater from an Air Defense perspective is in reality more of a tactical air theater management capability and is still carried out by E3's and the like. We launch them every day and they are essentially managing the different quadrants of operation.
Geez, you really need to do some more homework on this one. If the RAAF sent Air Defendo's to Afganistan it will only be to get them out of their mossy, humid, and ego saturated bunkers to get some sunshine!!
Air Defense, why the stuff would you need Air Defense controllers in Afghanistan or Iraq when you have no air threat and nothing to point the fighters at!
The Afghan and Iraq theater from an Air Defense perspective is in reality more of a tactical air theater management capability and is still carried out by E3's and the like. We launch them every day and they are essentially managing the different quadrants of operation.
Geez, you really need to do some more homework on this one. If the RAAF sent Air Defendo's to Afganistan it will only be to get them out of their mossy, humid, and ego saturated bunkers to get some sunshine!!
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Hmmm, so Fox3snapshot.... Which RAAF base are you currently posted to????
Perhaps you need to use one of your "ungrateful RAAF contacts" (see a previous - but yet mysteriously removed post about RAAFies not thanking you for information on your ME contacts) to clarify what two people in the know have told you.
I apologise to the other readers out there for my tirade.
Rant complete.
Perhaps you need to use one of your "ungrateful RAAF contacts" (see a previous - but yet mysteriously removed post about RAAFies not thanking you for information on your ME contacts) to clarify what two people in the know have told you.
I apologise to the other readers out there for my tirade.
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From a reliable source - looks like the RAAF are going to get the nod - and probably the reason why the decision has been delayed, as it has been a bit of a short notice thing.
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