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NATS interview process

Old 28th Jan 2019, 10:00
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Originally Posted by DJRenegade
Hey guys,

I keep coming across NATS and the ATC course and it was recommended to me a few times as people thought it would suit ex-military people, but I was convinced I needed a degree to do the role so didn't apply or even look much further into it. Well a few days ago curiosity got the better of me and I realised I was eligible to apply and so I did. I sailed through the Stage 1 Online Assessments no problem.
Now I have received an email telling me to stand by and wait for my Stage 2 invite and I have suddenly realised, I have NO IDEA how I am going to get to Fareham lol. I am currently unemployed and the missus just started maternity leave so our funds are low at the moment. Has anyone been in a similar situation and received help from the jobcentre?
It would set you up nicely if you could manage to secure a role with NATS. Not sure about the Jobcentre but definitely worth checking out. Where are you based?
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 15:13
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Hey I agree, it most definitely would! I am based in Norwich so its a good 185 miles. I had a look at trains and they are around £90 open return but I cant get one early enough to get me there on time so would need to arrive the night before, then the 2 nearest hotels are £60ish a night. £150 is worth it for the chance to get a role with NATS, but with this maternity pay its a lot of money I have an appointment at the Jobcentre on Wednesday so will ask then, but as I don't actually claim anything (I am just attached to my partners claim) I don't know if I will have all the help someone claiming would.
On the plus side, all the stage 2 slots are booked up so it gives me a little time to study and get something sorted
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Flying184
The additional training venues are to increase training capacity given the level of demand across the UK and the reduction in training facilities at CTC that happened a few years ago. The Union are also keen for training to be brought back totally in house.

- Do you get to submit a preference for which training location you would like or is it completely random?
If successful, you are a student and you get sent where there is a training space. You do not get a choice over Aerodrome/Approach/Area. That said, I believe you can opt out of the Spain option given that it is overseas.

- Is the full 6-9 months of college based training delivered at Global/Jerez, or just the 2 month basic course?
Global: 3 months Baisc, 3 Months ADI and/or 3.5 months APS as I understand it. This does not take into account breaks between courses. Spain: European basic course (4 months) and then back to the UK to do ratings at CTC as I understand it although stand to be corrected! There were rumours on here they were starting to deliver Area training at Jerez too but I am not sure.

- Do students at these locations all go down the aerodrome/approach route or do they also deliver area training?
Global do not deliver UK Area ratings and so if you went to Global you would do ADI/APS ratings. This does not mean you would go to an airport though.... there are plenty of APS only units such as Aberdeen Offshore, Aberporth Ranges, and of course a very big APS group at Swanwick providing approach radar for the main London airports. I believe there is currently a group at Global who have done Basic and APS and are destined for Swanwick approaches. I often read stories on here of people thinking "oh it'll never happen to me" to then find out they are off to Bonnie Scotland to do Aberdeen Offshore (which is a very interesting operation let it be said!)

Hope this helps. I cannot stress this enough..... you really need to understand and accept that if successful NATS will place you where THEY need you. This includes both training space and posting should you complete the course. E.g. Aberdeen is a very realistic posting, as is Belfast, Glasgow, Aberporth Ranges, Swanwick etc..... regardless of whether you have family in the south of the UK, children at school etc. If this is something you are not happy with, then I would really suggest another route into ATC!

Good luck
Thanks for the info. Tbh I wouldn't really have a preference (although a few months in Spain could be nice....) , I was just interested to know how it all works
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 11:50
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The Jerez course I’m on is only 5 months there (mid-Feb to mid-July). We then have time at Swanwick before heading to unit.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 13:29
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Looking for some advise or recommendations regarding travel to CTC. I will be travelling from Glasgow on Sunday most likely for Stage 2 on Monday however I still haven't pinned down what would be the best travel arrangements, whether I fly or drive.

I can fly direct to Southampton which I'm assuming would be the best method or I can go via Gatwick but both involve a bit of public transport travel that can take a few hours from what I've found alternatively I could drive down but would be looking at 12-15 hour round trip which could be time spent doing final reading of the NATS booklet. How did everyone else arrange their travel, how did you find it and is there anything you would do different?
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 13:32
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Originally Posted by StuBob
Looking for some advise or recommendations regarding travel to CTC. I will be travelling from Glasgow on Sunday most likely for Stage 2 on Monday however I still haven't pinned down what would be the best travel arrangements, whether I fly or drive.

I can fly direct to Southampton which I'm assuming would be the best method or I can go via Gatwick but both involve a bit of public transport travel that can take a few hours from what I've found alternatively I could drive down but would be looking at 12-15 hour round trip which could be time spent doing final reading of the NATS booklet. How did everyone else arrange their travel, how did you find it and is there anything you would do different?
Living in Scotland, my only real option was flying and as you said, every hour counts before the assessment day. I stayed 2 nights in Portsmouth and used trains majority of time when I was there and it was really quick and straight forward.

Darren
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 13:52
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Originally Posted by StuBob
Looking for some advise or recommendations regarding travel to CTC. I will be travelling from Glasgow on Sunday most likely for Stage 2 on Monday however I still haven't pinned down what would be the best travel arrangements, whether I fly or drive.

I can fly direct to Southampton which I'm assuming would be the best method or I can go via Gatwick but both involve a bit of public transport travel that can take a few hours from what I've found alternatively I could drive down but would be looking at 12-15 hour round trip which could be time spent doing final reading of the NATS booklet. How did everyone else arrange their travel, how did you find it and is there anything you would do different?
Whilst I was not traveling as far as you, I still stayed over the night before. It was reassuring to know that I was only a short distance away and that I wouldn't be held up or late by things out of my control.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 14:44
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Originally Posted by DarrenG42
Living in Scotland, my only real option was flying and as you said, every hour counts before the assessment day. I stayed 2 nights in Portsmouth and used trains majority of time when I was there and it was really quick and straight forward.

Darren
Hey Darren, how did your Stage 3 go?
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 15:18
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stage 2 complete. DART potentially flopped

Just finished my stage 2. Passed the Feast and now just waiting on the DART result. Feel like I made some stupid and costly errors on and collisions however so have no idea have it will turn out
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 17:26
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For my stage 2 I flew down from Aberdeen via Manchester to Southampton the night before, stayed at a B&B 5 mins from CTC, and just walked up in morning! Then flew home via Manchester again. When I went down for my medical though my flight home was delayed so I got train from Southampton to Woking then the national express straight to T5 at Heathrow and flew from there, so that could be an option for you also!
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 18:03
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Originally Posted by RussLee
Hey Darren, how did your Stage 3 go?
Thought it went really well but still havnt heard anything. Checking my email hourly haha

How was yours?
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 18:19
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Originally Posted by DarrenG42
Thought it went really well but still havnt heard anything. Checking my email hourly haha

How was yours?
I don't have mine until 13th Feb. Fingers crossed for you!! How was the day structured? Are you able to offer any advice? 😁
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 09:07
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Does anyone know how long it takes to hear back for the stage 2 DART results? I've noticed some peeps hear immediately and others a bit longer
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 10:27
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Originally Posted by arch2infinity
Does anyone know how long it takes to hear back for the stage 2 DART results? I've noticed some peeps hear immediately and others a bit longer
I heard back first thing the day after via email. But I'm guessing it depends on how busy they are etc. Just keep an eye on your junk folder as well 😉
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 10:56
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Originally Posted by RussLee
I heard back first thing the day after via email. But I'm guessing it depends on how busy they are etc. Just keep an eye on your junk folder as well 😉
Just heard back that I didn’t pass the DART. The mistakes I made were 100% unavoidable and this is gonna haunt me for months. I got too cocky instead of guiding the craft safely to the gate destinations. Pride before the fall folks... pride before the fall.

I suppose the question for me now is about reapplying. The examiner mentioned something about a new system in April that may allow us to apply fresh but I didn’t really processed what was being said. Does anyone know about this?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 11:25
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What went wrong with the DART arch2infinity?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 12:37
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Originally Posted by arch2infinity


Just heard back that I didn’t pass the DART. The mistakes I made were 100% unavoidable and this is gonna haunt me for months. I got too cocky instead of guiding the craft safely to the gate destinations. Pride before the fall folks... pride before the fall.

I suppose the question for me now is about reapplying. The examiner mentioned something about a new system in April that may allow us to apply fresh but I didn’t really processed what was being said. Does anyone know about this?
Sorry to hear that arch2infinity, you say your mistakes were 100% unavoidable? How so if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 14:35
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Originally Posted by RussLee
I don't have mine until 13th Feb. Fingers crossed for you!! How was the day structured? Are you able to offer any advice? 😁
Can't really say too much I'm afraid. Practice your interview questions, Google what type of questions they'll be asking. Also practice your answers using the Star interview method.
They explain each stage thoroughly beforehand as well.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 14:41
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Originally Posted by DarrenG42
Can't really say too much I'm afraid. Practice your interview questions, Google what type of questions they'll be asking. Also practice your answers using the Star interview method.
They explain each stage thoroughly beforehand as well.
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OK that's fair enough. Thanks for the tips. Was you there all day?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 14:43
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OK that's fair enough. Thanks for the tips. Was you there all day?
No a couple of days before you should get an email letting you know your slot, I was just there in the morning.
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