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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Gingers Have Souls
Got all excited as I had an email from NATS after completing stage 3..

Turns out itís just a feedback survey!
Buddy can you clean up your Inbox, it's impossible to reply to your message

Once again: good luck to everyone waiting! The day is coming closer
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Old 23rd Jun 2019, 14:41
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Hey guys,
Did you also notice in the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet that the Manchester Area Control Centre (MACC) does not appear on the list of control centres operated in Prestwick?
The relevant NATS webpage still mentions it: http://www.nats.aero/about-us/what-w...ntrol-centres/ So did the earlier version of the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet.As for the interview and the knowledge test, I think it’s safe to stick to the latest version of the booklet.But it would be interesting to find out if MACC has been merged with the Scottish Area Control Centre (ScACC). Does anybody know about it?

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 07:56
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Originally Posted by OH_OBS
Hey guys,
Did you also notice in the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet that the Manchester Area Control Centre (MACC) does not appear on the list of control centres operated in Prestwick?
The relevant NATS webpage still mentions it: http://www.nats.aero/about-us/what-w...ntrol-centres/ So did the earlier version of the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet.As for the interview and the knowledge test, I think itís safe to stick to the latest version of the booklet.But it would be interesting to find out if MACC has been merged with the Scottish Area Control Centre (ScACC). Does anybody know about it?
I believe that Prestwick operates the area down to around Birmingham, which would include MACC.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Niki86
I believe that Prestwick operates the area down to around Birmingham, which would include MACC.
Sure, but this doesnít answer OH_OBSís question, as they are already aware that MACC is (or was?) operating from Prestwick. The question is whether MACC has been subsumed under ScACC or is still a separate entity?

The reason for the confusion is the fact that the new pre-learning booklet simply does not mention MACC, whereas the previous booklet did. I noticed exactly the same thing and wasnít sure what to conclude, but in the description of ScACC it now mentions North of England etc. which previously fell under MACC, so I suspect it wasnít an accidental omission.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:09
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MACC no longer exists as a "physical" unit. The ex MACC sectors are now based at Prestwick centre and the RT callsign is Scottish control. Whether the ex MACC sectors are managed within Prestwick as a separate entity or not, I don't know and I don't think that level of knowledge would be expected from a candidate for a trainee place.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 22:38
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Originally Posted by mike current
MACC no longer exists as a "physical" unit. The ex MACC sectors are now based at Prestwick centre and the RT callsign is Scottish control. Whether the ex MACC sectors are managed within Prestwick as a separate entity or not, I don't know and I don't think that level of knowledge would be expected from a candidate for a trainee place.
Actually they say on the first page that maybe the info is potentially not up to date but that every candidate should focus on what is written there. So try not to distract yourself and follow the guidelines. I guess that would make a good first impression

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Old 28th Jun 2019, 10:46
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Anyone else on the October Jerez course? Is there a WhatsApp group going?
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 20:40
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Has anyone got any tips on learning the last section on the pre-learning document?
I've learnt everything else but struggling to get the last section to stick
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 21:05
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How long have you got to learn it?
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 22:53
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I've got a couple of days to get it to stick.... been trying out the major system to memorise but that's not really helped
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 07:26
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Originally Posted by taybz
I've got a couple of days to get it to stick.... been trying out the major system to memorise but that's not really helped
If the new booklet is like the old I am presuming you are talking about the aircraft info section? If not just ignore what I'm waffling on about!

First off I wouldn't worry too much about recalling every little piece of info about the aircraft, especially at this stage in the process. During my stage 3 (admittedly the older process) I didn't have to recall any actual aircraft info, but a basic understanding of the main manufacturer models helped very slightly. However, competent knowledge of the other information in the booklet was extremely useful.

That being said I didn't know this before hand so revised the final few pages by grouping aircraft into flight levels and cruising speeds which helped. I made a set of very basic graphs for FLs (aircraft on the x-axis and FL on the y-axis), on this I could add basic other info too and as I'm a very visual learner I became able to recall the image in my head when needed.

Capacity numbers are so variable in the real world, so long as you have an idea of the difference between the smaller narrow body aircraft (e.g. B737's/A320s...) and larger wide body (e.g. B777s/A380...) this may come in useful.

As for routes and companies I honestly didn't worry too much, again just knowing that the European carriers are likely to use smaller aircraft and the international carriers larger may be useful but I'd be amazed if any of this information turns into a deal breaker so long as you're showing the right attributes in other areas.

Anyway best of luck with the day and maybe we'll cross paths in the future!
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 10:56
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Thank you Topcat47... although the new one isn't as complicated as the old one... I need to know aircraft type, cruising level, speed, and destinations, thankfully they have simplified this section a little.
I like the graph idea I will try this, It may help with recall
it's good to know they don't focus too much on this last section, takes the stress out of it a little
Thanks, hope our paths do cross
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 14:41
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Originally Posted by taybz
Thank you Topcat47... although the new one isn't as complicated as the old one... I need to know aircraft type, cruising level, speed, and destinations, thankfully they have simplified this section a little.
I like the graph idea I will try this, It may help with recall
it's good to know they don't focus too much on this last section, takes the stress out of it a little
Thanks, hope our paths do cross
I also did the old test and grouped them together in a table and learnt the numbers in a sort of code going down and across looking for patterns. What helped me progress from that though was knowing what each aircraft looked like. I donít know why but it worked hahaha.

Anyone here in Jerez? Whatís the aircraft recognition section on the basic like out there? The one we did was 50 planes and a lot to take in but thatís the basic course I suppose!
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 15:36
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Has anyone received any news yet from the new Stage 3's? Good or bad...

I was in the second group on 10th June, so approaching the 30 days now.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 15:42
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Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
Has anyone received any news yet from the new Stage 3's? Good or bad...

I was in the second group on 10th June, so approaching the 30 days now.
Still nothing from me also. I was in the first group in June.

The only correspondence Iíve received is the survey email.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 15:47
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Well at least I'm not the only one!

Did they give you any info on how you would be notified?

The last system was a call for yes and just an email for no.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 15:58
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Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
Well at least I'm not the only one!

Did they give you any info on how you would be notified?

The last system was a call for yes and just an email for no.
i honestly canít recall accurately. They just said youíll hear from us in 30 days.

They did ask me and the rest of the group to write our email address on a document at the very beginning of the day. The only way theyíll get hold of my phone number is by checking the CV I attached all the way at the very start of the process.

So with that in mind I think it will be an email. Would be ideal to hear soon tbh.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 16:07
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Originally Posted by idloveit


i honestly canít recall accurately. They just said youíll hear from us in 30 days.

They did ask me and the rest of the group to write our email address on a document at the very beginning of the day. The only way theyíll get hold of my phone number is by checking the CV I attached all the way at the very start of the process.

So with that in mind I think it will be an email. Would be ideal to hear soon tbh.
Well, If your Stage 3 was before mine, that means we'll both know for sure by the 10th, so 9 days... :S

When did you sit yours?

Make sure to update us if you hear anything!
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Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
Well, If your Stage 3 was before mine, that means we'll both know for sure by the 10th, so 9 days... :S

When did you sit yours?

Make sure to update us if you hear anything!
mine was the week before yours. No news is good news so they say..
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Originally Posted by idloveit


mine was the week before yours. No news is good news so they say..

Ah right, so you should be finding out in the next couple of days?

Yeah I suppose so! It will be what it will be, you gonna try again if you don't get through this time?

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