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Old 11th Oct 2013, 07:12
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No recent pay rise (or in foreseeable future)
No school fees
No housing allowance advance available
Rents increasing at exponential rate
Contracts change on a whim
Bonuses subject to new HR ruling
Make a mistake and risk being fired
Overtime payments take up to 4 months to be paid
Risk your lives on the roads
Live as a second class citizen

Living the dream!
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 18:46
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thank you for the tips!!!
when reading some posts, I got the impression some people are treated as pakistanis or indians second base staff.
I mean , we are not looking for the perfect job with the perfect salary in the perfect conditions, we are just trying to relocate ourselves to a new place and do our job , which we love by the way.
We know there are lots of concessions to make , but we think once in a lifetime we have to taste it.
And also we would be coming as 2 ATCOs , so the financial aspect doesn't matter much for us as we would get enough money to make it.
Anyway , thank you all of you to give us a clear point of view
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Old 12th Oct 2013, 06:10
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I hope your English is good then.
The last Spaniard crashed and burned partly because he struggled to communicate so quickly in his second language. No French spoken here!
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Old 12th Oct 2013, 13:34
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As long as the english is praseology , it will be ok
And we are not fluent like you guys but we ll make it i am sure
Thank you for your support
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 19:42
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As long as you can understand "confirm" and "Roddggge Sir" and read back things 3 times you should be fine down here..... Bonne Courage!
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 23:23
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Abu Dhabi ATCO

Have all positions in Middle East been filled or just not being published???
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Old 10th Dec 2013, 08:47
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I believe APP/TWR are short in Abu Dhabi
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Abu Dhabi ATCO

Is that a serco contract or other???
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Old 10th Dec 2013, 16:13
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GALwere looking for APP and TWR controllers a couple of weeks back but I reckon that was in case they got the contract for Sharjah. SERCO got Sharjah again so the add disappeared from their website.
I don't think GAL are currently advertising controller jobs.
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Old 10th Dec 2013, 19:45
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Abu Dhabi ATCO

Yeah I was wondering what had happened with gal... Esp when I got 2 emails within mins saying no... Oh well I can only hope for more opportunities soon
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Old 13th Dec 2013, 19:45
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@Number 2

....All correct except that its now 5 months before overtime paid...might be 6 by next month!!!

Also....leave reduced significantly to 22 working days....down from 34.....welcome to the GCAA folks...
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 16:40
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DESDI or BUST

Are you saying leave for those already contracted has been reduced to 22 days, or is it for new joiners?

I appreciate your pain, however you neglected to mention that you get a day for every Public Holiday, so chalk up about another 10 to 15 days leave.

Whether you get to take them or not is another thing.
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Old 17th Dec 2013, 22:14
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@rule3

You are correct. Athere seemed to be some confusion (surprise sursprise) over that. no change to leave policy.
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Old 24th Apr 2014, 13:52
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Abu Dhabi TWR

Hi folks, I'm a long time reader of PPRuNe, first time poster! I'm interested in finding out about Abu Dhabi TWR .. working conditions, shift patterns, A/L, management, team morale, traffic patterns etc.. Any feedback would be appreciated! Cheers!
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 13:36
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GCAA hiring again

Hi everyone

GCAA had open vacancy for acc controller , anyone applied ? or its other way around that everyone whants to leave?

How long it takes to hear from them ? in both cases yes or no ?

Thx
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Old 9th Jul 2015, 12:01
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Originally Posted by avoiee
Hi everyone

GCAA had open vacancy for acc controller , anyone applied ? or its other way around that everyone whants to leave?

How long it takes to hear from them ? in both cases yes or no ?

Thx
Just don't bother subjecting yourself to coming here. It's not a decision you can take back and you will regret it. The money is not that great, and if you have a family, the money isn't even enough, and the working conditions and morale are so bad it's horrible going to work. Will leave as soon as any other door opens up.

Rosters are getting worse, salaries are screwed, leave is unbalanced, no payrise in sight, lies and more lies from management and HR about any subject you bring up.

JUST DONT BOTHER.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 11:17
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Are you from Georgia? If you don't have experience in a very busy and complex ACC please don't apply. The UAE ACC airspace is busy and getting busier without any flow control and the lack of quality pilots makes the job even harder.
Don't come here thinking it is easy money because it is far from it, we have had enough poor controllers try and fail.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 06:02
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Hey guys. I haven't been on here in a long time but I have some questions about this.

This feed definitely leaves me with a nervous feeling. I have been talking to the recruiters for Abu Dhabi this past week, and I am half expecting an offer for training to come in the next week. I had never decided if I was going to take it or not, but I was really hoping the scenario there was better than it sounds.

I'm coming from a pretty complex specialty with 9 years experience in a mix of radar, and non-radar, and have 3.5 years with a terminal endorsement. Honestly, Morale in my department is at an all time low, and I really just want to go somewhere with a better climate, and where I can make enough to travel, have fun, and retire fairly young.

First, even coming from a poor morale department (critcally understaffed with no end in sight and lies from management), in a place that gets 2-4 months of nice weather a year, would you still say not to come there? Just wait for somewhere else? Just to be clear, this place sucks. Lol. Its only family that would keep me here.

Second, if I ignored all of your advice and came anyhow what would I need to make in AED (single guy but still going to keep my home back in Canada) to lead a decent lifestyle there? I'm not sure if there is negotiating room or not but it doesn't hurt to ask right?

Third, what do you guys think of Abu Dhabi aside from the crap you're dealing with at work? Seems like there would be no shortage of things to do, but I haven't been there yet. Possibly coming out in 1-2 months before making any final decision. But do you enjoy the city/country?

Thanks in advance,

Travellingatco
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 14:00
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There is enough information here for you to make your decision, if you think you will be different to everyone else and enjoy it even though most people are making exit plans then go ahead.

Don't say you weren't warned though when you regret your decision, because you will...
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 15:39
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Fair enough. Thanks west atc. I'll see what happens this week. Maybe I won't get an offer anyhow. That certainly would make the decision simple!

But it does seem like the waiting for somewhere else to open up would make me happier. I know one controller in Brisbane, and a couple in Bahrain. I'll talk to them and see how they feel about where they are. Neither are hiring internationally right now, but I'm not in some big hurry.
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