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Old 29th Jan 2006, 12:41
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Near miss over The Hammers???

Just raed about the supposed near miss over Upton Park involving a DHL plane, read it on the sunay mirror website - no photos thought.

My dad phoned me he has seen the pictures in the paper and says they looked quite close - but can't tell how far apart vertically they are. I assume they were 1000 ft apart with one being vectored over the other for parrallel approaches into Heathrow
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Quote from photographer:

I saw the planes coming together, from where I was sitting they looked very close.
Photo was obviously taken with a hefty zoom lens (500m at the very least, possibly 1000m as it was a professional football photographer), and it's very grainy; lots of foreshortening going on. Looks like a JAL B773 and a DHL A300.

The Mirror says that....

incredibly, it has not been classified as a near-miss
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Picture is definitely take with a 'long' telephoto making it look as though the DHL aircraft is almost touching the JAL. Anyone who's seen the photo taken at San Francisco with the 747 and 757 will know what I mean.
That photographer should go to Craven Cottage when Heathrow are on westerlies; you get a much better view with the helicopters on H3/H4 mixing it with 747's on 'collision courses' and they're almost 2000ft apart !
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Originally Posted by TATC
read it on the sunay mirror website
Must be true, then!
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Was the footy that bad the fans turned to plane spotting for entertainment?
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Isn't a near miss actually a hit them?
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Old 29th Jan 2006, 17:38
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Sure is Westy, it's a term I can't stand hearing.

"Damn, they nearly missed"
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Anyone got a link to this story?
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All sounds terribly, terribly scary and I'm amazed they weren't all killed!!!!!!!!!!
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heres the link - no pictures on it though
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/t...name_page.html
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I hate the press so much. They kill public confidence in everything by killing their confidence in safety aspects.
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Here's the pic ... 1000' vertical separation is all that would be required.

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'Close Encounter' over East London

Anyone know what planes were involved in this ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660644.stm

I'm guessing a DHL 737 and a JAL 777 ?

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"Unknown traffic, 12 o'clock, 0 miles...."
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Check out http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=208698.

Moving you right now!
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Originally Posted by chevvron
That photographer should go to Craven Cottage when Heathrow are on westerlies;
The way Fulham are playing at home this season, should be quite worthwhile!!!

Cheers,
TheOddOne

ps for some reason, they've stopped referring to themselves as 'the Cottagers'...
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 00:52
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I would have thought it was a very simple matter to work out exactly how close they were, seing as the aircraft types and therefore their dimensions are obvious.

The lower one appears to be in a slight turn which would make the arithmatic a little more complex, but the silhouette could be studied to get the bank angle to use as an adjustment, blah blah etc etc, I'm even boring myself.

It's just simple trignometry. If we can send a probe all the way to Mars, how hard can this be?

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Who remembers the Father Ted episode........

"Now Dougal, these are small........those are far away"
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Yawn. Just skilful vectoring. Safe, orderly and expeditious..........
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The Odd One:
At least they beat Newcastle, and we had the pleasure of seeing Shearer get 'decked' twice in one minute just prior to his elbow 'accidentally' ending up in someone's face.
Tomorrow against Spurs is another matter though.
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