TC Move to Swanwick
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A relative of mine is a Met police dog handler and operates in the WD area. He likens it to the Bronx or LA south side 20 years age (his wife is from LA and he lived there from 80 - 90). The sooner the place is shut the better. He suggests that you do not walk in WD after dark!!! At all if female.
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You don't actually need to move NAS to move TC, but it is planned to be in service at Swanwick long before TC moves. CCDS is being replaced with another (ACID) system which is also position independant to the TC move.
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Thanks, involved in various projects in this area. It does not matter where NAS is (to Scotland or Manchester either) but it might affect business if we close WD and forget to take it with us - and ACID - if its working by then of course.
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Mighty! I will believe that when I see it. iTEC means, I think, inter summat through european co-operation / co-ordination. No iTEC system exists yet. SACTA goes to ScACC. iTEC for London to replace NAS 2010 -2012. Yes, of course it will.
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It was of course the SACTA one I was referring to, as mentioned by Mineasapint. It is already a fully functioning FDP system, with the ability to send PAC, MAC, and REV messages over OLDI. Something our current UK wide system can't.
Alas, I suspect the empire builders in NATS will be trying to dumb it down since NATS could never possibly buy something out of the box without tampering with it and taking useful functionality out
Time for NAS to realise its time is up and its life is limited. The engineers and support teams have done a great job of keeping it going over the years, but in comparison to modern day systems and what they can do, it looks very cumbersome and lacking in user friendly functionality.
Alas, I suspect the empire builders in NATS will be trying to dumb it down since NATS could never possibly buy something out of the box without tampering with it and taking useful functionality out
Time for NAS to realise its time is up and its life is limited. The engineers and support teams have done a great job of keeping it going over the years, but in comparison to modern day systems and what they can do, it looks very cumbersome and lacking in user friendly functionality.
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Hhhmmm, the SACTA version of NAS does not do all that NAS can and has to. I'm no fan of NAS but there is no off the shelf replacement (except maybe the new version of NAS). Also remember that the SACTA thats going into nPC will be treated by NAS as ScACC currently is, as an OLDI, not as a part of NAS.
I'll speak to my experts on Monday about what the SACTA system and the proposed iTEC replacement does and does not do. My current understanding is that it is a long long way off of being anywhere near replacing NAS.
I'll speak to my experts on Monday about what the SACTA system and the proposed iTEC replacement does and does not do. My current understanding is that it is a long long way off of being anywhere near replacing NAS.
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SACTA v NAS is a none starter. NAS can handle the entire OLDI message set which goes way beyond PAC MAC & REV. NATS chooses not to spend the money on NAS to introduce additional functionality. Be aware though that its no good having all this functionality if the adjacent ACC's don't. I agree its time for NAS to go but only when the replacement is able to support the traffic levels. SACTA can? is Scotland/MACC but not in London, hence iTEC. Interoperability through european co-operation. Or, SACTA enhanced. Its safe to say that most controllers have a fairly limited understanding of their FDP system and that's the way it should be.
Forgot: PAC will be introduced in support of the NAS/SACTA split. PAC = Pre Activation Co-ordination. REV is a revision message and MAC is basically 'I aint commin'
Forgot: PAC will be introduced in support of the NAS/SACTA split. PAC = Pre Activation Co-ordination. REV is a revision message and MAC is basically 'I aint commin'
