ATCO Vacancy
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ATCO Vacancy
HIAL are advertising in this weeks Flight for an Aerodrome and Approach (non-radar) ATCO for Kirkwall.
Good salary and a great part of the country to live.
[email protected]
Should also be on their website
www.hial.co.uk
Good salary and a great part of the country to live.
[email protected]
Should also be on their website
www.hial.co.uk
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From what I can gather, 2005 will be a good year for ATCOs who hold all the ratings.
There are/will be vacancies springing up all over the UK with more posts available than ATCOs willing to move, and employers finally realising that no one is going to move to get a £3K pay rise and put £20K on the mortgage.
Even the desperate or those about to retire can still get a good deal out of HIA.
This can only be good news in upping the ante when the pay round talks start.
Let battle commence.
There are/will be vacancies springing up all over the UK with more posts available than ATCOs willing to move, and employers finally realising that no one is going to move to get a £3K pay rise and put £20K on the mortgage.
Even the desperate or those about to retire can still get a good deal out of HIA.
This can only be good news in upping the ante when the pay round talks start.
Let battle commence.
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"Salary circa £38K" ??? For a validated ATCO with all 3 ratings to move to such an expensive part of the world???
Our management used to think that just because, like Gloucestershire, the area offered such a high standard of living and quality of life, we didn't have to offer top rates to attract experienced atcos.
They've undergone a serious attitude readjustment in the last few years.
Either you're taking the piss or your management seriously underestimate the shortage of experienced quality atcos who are willing to up sticks and go elsewhere.
Don't expect to be trampled in the rush.
Our management used to think that just because, like Gloucestershire, the area offered such a high standard of living and quality of life, we didn't have to offer top rates to attract experienced atcos.
They've undergone a serious attitude readjustment in the last few years.
Either you're taking the piss or your management seriously underestimate the shortage of experienced quality atcos who are willing to up sticks and go elsewhere.
Don't expect to be trampled in the rush.
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Hi Niknak
I reckon the £38k was set by the gloucester beancounters, so go easy on the poor fella.... I'm sure once the suits checkout the underwhelming response the figures will change
I reckon the £38k was set by the gloucester beancounters, so go easy on the poor fella.... I'm sure once the suits checkout the underwhelming response the figures will change
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Ummm.............
38K for looking out the window, doing procedural approach and maybe the odd SRA - one aircraft on radar at a time
OR
38K for working LARS, risking my licence in class 'G', with an increasing IFR training load, lots of external co-ordination, various large commercial inbounds and an airfield management who won't invest in updated equipment and only sees ATC as a drain on his budget.
It's almost tempting
38K for looking out the window, doing procedural approach and maybe the odd SRA - one aircraft on radar at a time
OR
38K for working LARS, risking my licence in class 'G', with an increasing IFR training load, lots of external co-ordination, various large commercial inbounds and an airfield management who won't invest in updated equipment and only sees ATC as a drain on his budget.
It's almost tempting
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Not a personal attack on 360 by any means, it's probably as frustrating for him that his bean counters (or MD) have their heads in the deep sands of denial.
I am sure he's done his best to persuade them, and shown them the salary scales of other UK airports who have less movements, but pay more than that for ADC/APC.
(No, I'm not at Bristol...... ).
I am sure he's done his best to persuade them, and shown them the salary scales of other UK airports who have less movements, but pay more than that for ADC/APC.
(No, I'm not at Bristol......
).
Mr Monster, Looking out the window? Not quite as easy as your place with what......60 runway movements on a BUSY day? Theres a bit more to it than the odd SRA. Perhaps you need a liasion visit as you clearly haven't got a clue!
And one aircraft on radar at a time?! What are you on about! Filton isnt the centre of the universe, our management may or may not have their heads in the sands of denial but yours is certainly up your own ar$e!
And as for risking your licence....perhaps you had better consider an alternative career!
(Rant over....)
And one aircraft on radar at a time?! What are you on about! Filton isnt the centre of the universe, our management may or may not have their heads in the sands of denial but yours is certainly up your own ar$e!
And as for risking your licence....perhaps you had better consider an alternative career!
(Rant over....)
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Trust you to read completely opposite in the post to what was meant!
So why is it whenever I've got more than one inbound to you wanting a radar vectored approach one of them has to go into the hold?
Don't be a w
r with posts like that young man (And if you're not careful you'll get your inbounds same time - same level )
So why is it whenever I've got more than one inbound to you wanting a radar vectored approach one of them has to go into the hold?
Don't be a w
r with posts like that young man (And if you're not careful you'll get your inbounds same time - same level )
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.....because 90% of the traffic (CSE) coming from your way WANTS to go in the hold, as it is on their training syllabus, thats why they are coming to us. Re-read your post......what other way can that be taken to mean?! Gloucester gaze out the window doing nowt and you lot have the whole world against you! Sometimes radar can be a slight problem with only 3 radar controllers as they cannot work every day without taking breaks. Still, I'm sure your CV would be gratefully received.............
Sometimes radar can be a slight problem with only 3 radar controllers as they cannot work every day without taking breaks. Still, I'm sure your CV would be gratefully received.............
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Watch it 360, he might be tempted. Although the previous condecending posting indicates a level of big-headedness that no doubt your fine management would see right through
Having said all that £38k is nowhere going to be enoughfor you to attract anyone of any calibre
Having said all that £38k is nowhere going to be enoughfor you to attract anyone of any calibre
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In response to your Pm Chilli....what's condescending?.....let's read the post again...
.....belittling the professionalism of an ATC colleague
......comparison is condecending ie I work harder than you do. You don't risk your licence every day whilst I do.
You claimed to "know what Gloucester do " and "handle and even sequence their inbounds for them on a lot of occasions"
How kind of you to find the time amongst your 'busy' schedule to help out those unfortunate souls up the road.
Gloucester are a very busy and highly proficiant unit. Whoever applies for the job will need to be top drawer.
38K for looking out the window, doing procedural approach and maybe the odd SRA - one aircraft on radar at a time
38K for working LARS, risking my licence in class 'G', with an increasing IFR training load, lots of external co-ordination, various large commercial inbounds
You claimed to "know what Gloucester do " and "handle and even sequence their inbounds for them on a lot of occasions"
How kind of you to find the time amongst your 'busy' schedule to help out those unfortunate souls up the road.Gloucester are a very busy and highly proficiant unit. Whoever applies for the job will need to be top drawer.
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1) Very bad form to bring Personal messages into public domain - shame on you
2) I'll re-iterate, as English is something you obviously have a problem with. Rather than belittling the unit I was actually comparing it favourably with somewhere else.
I'll say it again:
It's obviously not just the Yanks that have problems with IRONY!
1) Very bad form to bring Personal messages into public domain - shame on you
2) I'll re-iterate, as English is something you obviously have a problem with. Rather than belittling the unit I was actually comparing it favourably with somewhere else.
I'll say it again:
It's obviously not just the Yanks that have problems with IRONY!
Razors Edge.....I couldnt have put it better myself
Comparing it 'favourably with somewhere else'? That appears to be something only YOU can interpret from your original post!
Comparing it 'favourably with somewhere else'? That appears to be something only YOU can interpret from your original post!