How to "get out" in a month.

[Anita Bush]

Ok ...... how is it done?
How do you get out of the RAF with only a months notice?

I do not want to:
A. Slam my 'old feller' in the top drawer of the map chest.
B. Declare myself as being a horse and then taken away by white coated individuals.

I have heard that certain individuals (truckie fleet) have asked to leave with only one months notice as they are allowed to under European Law. Does anyone know if this is correct? Anyone actually tried it?

And yes, I have seen the postings about "How long to leave the service"

[BEagle]

Tried the old undies and pencils routine?

[Otis Spunkmeyer]

Don't know if this helps. A SNCO Techie at Lyneham was told 6 months for his PVR but got out in less than a month.

I believe that the factor was that he had a definite job offer, in writing, including start date.

I know also that he was going through a divorce and needed the change (gratuity) to sort out his finances. Don't know how much difference this made though.

I think this has been done before on Pprune

[opso]

It's fairly standard for people to get out quite quickly these days. For most trades, the notice is currently 6-12 months (after you've "paid" for your OCU). However, depending on time served (and so resettlement accrued) and by using your annual leave, this could easily drop to 3 months. If you have a definite job offer which is due to start before this 'last day at work' date, the RAF will probably release you provided a) you're departure won't leave your trade chronically short (NB GD Aircrew are the most overmanned area of the RAF at the moment according to PMA stats!) and b) you can get your boss to sign the form as he will have to accept your post gapped for about 3 months. Therefore, it stands to reason that if you are gash shag aircrew on a sqn after your IPP and you have a firm job offer, the RAF will be hardpushed to keep you in. Trickier in a digital post and very unlikely without the firm job offer.

[Anita Bush]

Thanks everyone so far for the info.


It looks like its going to be.......SLAM......ouch!:bored: :mad:

Anyone know any good solicitors??!!........Or plastic surgeons??

[ShyTorque]

Just a thought....

What does the staish's wife look like? Is she getting enough?

Just a thought..... :E

[Training Risky]

The next time the AOC comes to visit, why not streak through the reception in the Mess/formal dinner/awards presentation (delete as required)..... while singing "I'VE GOT A LOVELY BUNCH OF COCONUTS".

;) :cool:

[ORAC]

Anita, what makes you think that will get you out these days? It'd probably get you promoted.......... :}

[Runaway Gun]

You could always 'come out' within a month.
No...wait... that's OK now isn't it? Not encouraged though !!

[Whipping Boy's SATCO]

Dunno. But you've already wasted a couple of days.........:)

[The Gorilla]

I don't actually see why anyone would want to leave within a month, and the actual logistics would be a complete nightmare!

I know because I have just got an exit date within four months and that has taken some doing. I assume if you can leave within a month then you haven't got any resettlement coming your way? Or unused annual leave??

I have to say that the RAF is playing very, very fair at the moment. Basically if you have in a job offer in writing AND your place of work is prepared to run light,(No operational effect)then you can be out within weeks.

Obviously this is trade and role dependent, but if you are in the right place at the right time and can get a job, well I am living proof that you can be out in a matter of weeks.

Talk to your people at PMC, they really are there to help!! (Did I REALLY say that)

:ugh:

Nee nah the next train standing...:ok:

[Dr-Evil]

From the title of the thread I thought you might have been on about this story ?!
:ooh: http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/article/0,,30000-12389423,00.html :ooh:

[steamchicken]

Invest in a Sex Pistols queen's head t-shirt and wear with pride?

Slap "Tiocfiadh Ar La!" Sinn Fein zap stickers on anything that will stand still, including aircraft, vehicles, buildings, police officers?

Test positive for illegal drugs?

Develop a compulsion to find out exactly how low the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge is?

[jobsworth]

I did leave with a months notice. I went to a job interview, got the job, walked into PSF and basically said I want out. I produced the letter with the start date; I waived all my leave and resettlement. I asked not to be put through the “are you sure” routine, as I was adamant I was going and no way would they stop me. I finished on the Friday and was in my new job Monday morning, there was no disruption to my wages as I went into a similar pay system. All in all a very easy transition.
I’m glad I did the years I did, but I’m also glad I moved on to pastures new, my career prospects are far wider and I earn a damn site more that what people a few ranks above me were earning and we all know how long it takes to move up a few ranks. I had a good time and made some great friends. The RAF gave me a great start in life, but I did not see it as a career, there were not enough opportunities to progress at the rate I feel I am capable of.

[2port]

Try winning the lottery - that seems to work, although my £10 on Sat wasn't quite enough.

[Anita Bush]

Nice one jobsworth!

I take my hat off to you for taking the plunge and saying "come on in - the water's lovely".

I look forward to doing the same in the very near future. Best of luck.

Everyone else - thanks for all the useful info.

[jobsworth]

My pleasure Anita Bush.

I have had a few friends that have been asking what, where, when and how after I took the plunge and found the water wasn’t too deep and was quite a nice temperature.
The RAF is no longer a career for life, unless you go into a particularly specialist role. At the end of the day the civilian side of life is not THAT bothered about what you did in the military, they don’t understand a majority of what it was we did. It is a plus point you did it, but you have to move on with life and if you are ambitious, you have to make the moves to progress that career.
The trend on civvy street is to recruit people who are already trained. Smaller companies will pay crap but act as feeder companies for the larger better paying companies. As the older generations eventually retire, the RAF will have an even greater problem with retention of the younger, highly trained and ambitious young people who want to earn the big bucks. There is nothing worse than an institutionalised old soldier who won’t accept change, ageism is alive and well on this side of the fence.

But if you are happy doing what you do, my hat comes of to you, stick with it.

[dc8loadie]

agree with jobsworth, just turn up at PSF with a letter from your future employer with an intended start date and off you go, however it does mean doing without a resettlement course and annual/terminal leave, but if you are that keen to leave that should pose no problem.:{

[Arctic Tern]

Guys - wonderful news about getting out in short order, but beware the new Desk Officer problem. I had the misfortune to call my Desk Officer the other week and imagine my surprise when I find that PMA have opened a new box of GD Officers who speak the party line and talk absolute :mad: ****ocks
According to this individual, the wait is 18 months, there is no point in my applying for PA terms, and I have no prospects for further advancement. Not a bit of the pragmatic, understanding and reasonable behaviour others have described here before.
Perhaps it was the wrong time of the month:confused:
I'm off now to get one of those magic letters from a prospective employer.

[jobsworth]

Printed on gold they are

[Gainesy]

...er, actually they are printed on printers very similar to the one next to your PC.
That generate any ideas?:cool: :E

[Anita Bush]

Yes my D.O. ("I've gone from Sgt to Sqn Ldr in five years - not bad eh?") told me that it was about 9 months at the moment.

Anyone heard anything different?

[Arctic Tern]

Anita
Haven't heard anything different, but am gonna press to test V soon - I'll let you know. By the way, is it you or your DO that's gone from Sgt to Sqn Ldr in 5 years? I sense I could be talking to an intruder here ;)

[Anita Bush]

If it was me who had gone from Sgt to S/L in five years,do you think that I would be asking advice on how to leave???!!!!!!!!:p :p :p :p

[J.A.F.O.]

If you're stuck then I remember a guy a little while back (okay 15 years if you must know) who stood for election as an MP and they had to let him out there and then. I'm fairly sure it's still the same today.

[chippy63]

A bit off topic, perhaps, but I remember a joke from some time back on Prune about the recalcitrant conscript:

Got into trouble on day one, sent to the company office for a bo££ocking. Starts riffling through the papers on the orderly sergeant's desk, muttering, " no, this isn't the one"
Gets screamed at for this, gradually escalates up to the CO.
Same thing, he riffles through the papers on the CO's desk, muttering, "no, this isn't the one"
CO reckons there's something seriously wrong with the guy, sends him to the MO.
Again, he riffles through the papers on the MO's desk- again, "no, this isn't the one"
MO gives him a perfunctory examination, decides he's barmy, and writes out a medical discharge and gives it to him.
He brightens up, and says, "yes, this is the one!"

Oi! Forward! Back to the thread!

[teeteringhead]

J.A.F.O
Fraid the "standing for Parliament" loophole was changed (after a bye-election with many many serving candidates!). You now only get out if you're elected. Sorry.:ugh: