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I. M. Esperto
20th Jun 2003, 05:32
Here are some photos of planes you won't see everyday.


20th Jun 2003, 07:20
True... But I can name a fair few of of them, am familiar with nearly all and I'll bet Aerohack would achieve a very high score...

There's a Spitfire in there though, can you imagine...

Good selection of pics though!

Good night,


I. M. Esperto
20th Jun 2003, 23:22
Here's one that bothers me. I believe it is a Curtis all wood, XP?


21st Jun 2003, 00:03
Bell XP-77: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p77.htm

I. M. Esperto
21st Jun 2003, 00:13
PT Thanks. That rings a Bell. I was searching for a Curtis.

21st Jun 2003, 00:30
Hah! Just beat me to it!

Another interesting shot is the B-17 http://www.aviationpics.de/mystery/mystery0015.jpg

Did this really have the Wrights removed or has this pic been airbrushed? I know I've seen photos of it with the turbine turning and the Wrights shut down... but this one does look a bit faked!

The airframe still exists and is (was) being rebuilt at Tom Reilly's Tardis at Kissimmee!

21st Jun 2003, 02:33
Tom Reilly is still working on that one, it has been sold though according to a recent Flypast Magazine, can't remember who the owner is now.

The 'single engined' version definitively never existed, that picture is fake!

Dan Winterland
21st Jun 2003, 07:00
I'm not sure, but I think the one with Breguet 941 written in large letters down the side of the fuselage might be a Breguet 941.

21st Jun 2003, 14:48
That Bell XP-77 is lovely. What a wonderful PFA (Experimental) project a lightweight version of that would make.

The single turbine B-17 is definately a fake.

21st Jun 2003, 22:02
29 Looks as if it might be a Beverly, and 30 a Blackburn Firebrand.
27 is an Ekranoplan. 30 appears to be a Super Fortress. Thought 21 was an Intruder, but it isn't quite. One of it's predecessors maybe?

Can we make this into an official quiz please:)

22nd Jun 2003, 15:05
21 is not an Intruder prototype, it is the Bell X-5 which was used for early polymorphic trials - the wing sweep could be changed manually on the ground for research purposes. It was based on a German research ac discovered after the end of WW II.

23rd Jun 2003, 11:31
23 thru 26 are Bell XV-3 of 1955 (4147 A/C 1 & 4148 A/C 2). 38 & 39 are the same Bristol Type 164 Brigand B Mk.1 of which "167 were built of all types when production ceased in 1949".

Sources: "VSTOL" Mike Rogers and "The Encyclopedia of World Aircraft", Edited by David Donald.

24th Jun 2003, 03:09
Anyone with additions/corrections? :p

I'll do some more later.

0001 Stearman Hammond 'Y'
0003 Boeing Stratoliner
0004 HP Hereford
0005 Tupolev Tu-4 'Bull'
0006 Airspeed 'Fleet Shadower'
0007 NA AJ-1 Savage
0008 Amiot 143
0009 Curtiss AT-9
0010 Scaled AT3 ATT
0011 Boeing Skyfox
0013 AvroCanada Jetliner
0014 Avro Manchester
0015 Boeing B17 Engine testbed (fake)
0016 Boeing XB38 (B17 with Allison engines)
0017 NA B45 Tornado
0018 EE Lightning T4 Trainer
0019 Beriev Be10
0020 Bell XFM-1 Airacuda
0021 Bell X-5
0022 Bell XP-77
0023,24, 25, 26, 27 Bell XV-3
0029 Blackburn Beverly
0030 Blackburn Firebrand
0032 Boeing B-50
0033 Boeing Vertol 347
0034 M-50 'Bounder'
0037 Breguet 941
0038, 39 Bristol Brigand
0040 Burnelli UB-14
0041 Douglas Globemaster
0042 Fairchild 'Packet'
0044 CAAC something
0049 Curtiss 'Owl'
0050 Curtiss AT-9
0051 Curtiss XP55 Ascender
0052 D-21 Drone
0054 DeHavilland Hornet
0057 Dewetoine D520
0060 DeHavilland DH108 Swallow
0063 Dornier Do31
0064 Dornier Do31

0071 F16XL
0072 F-107A
0077 FW154
0078 Fokker G-1
0080 XF-85 Goblin
0081 Grumman F5F
0082 HP Hastings
0083 Supermarine Attacker
0084 HP Heyford
0086 Hawker Henley
0087 Hawker Seahawk prototype
0088 Heinkel He111Z Zwilling
0090 Rockwell HIMAT
0098 Aerocar
0105 Boeing KB-50
0119 Leduc O.21
0122 B-36 Peacemaker
0123 Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne
0125 Lockheed Constitution
0126 Lockheed XFV-1 Pogo
0127 Lockheed F-94 Starfire
0128 Lockheed P-38 Lightning
0133 Lockheed Neptune
0134 Martin PBM-5
0137 Martin Baker MB5
0142 XF-85 Goblin
0149 Northrop N-9M
0151 B-45 Tornado
0154 A-6 Intruder
0155 Nord Penguin
0157 Northrop A-9A
0158, 159, 160, 161 XP-56 Black Bullet
0163 Tupolev TU95 'Bear'
0164 Lockheed Neptune
0165 Lockheed P-38 Lightning
0167 Curtiss P-40
0168 P-51 Mustang (fake)
0169 Northrop XP-79 Ram
0173, 174 Scaled Proteus
0176 Bell XP-56A with fake prop
0181 Bristol Brittania
0182 Carvair
0185 Dassault Mercure
0187 Fokker-VFW 614
0188 Northrop A-9A
0190 Fairey FD-2
0194 Hawker P1052
0198 Vickers 'Nene' Viking

24th Jun 2003, 04:54
43: Sikorsky S-56/H-37

45: Convair R3Y-1 Tradewind


61: Dinfia Guarani (Argentina)

Can I can hear the rustling of exceedingly ancient copies of the Observers books in the background?!

Agaricus bisporus
28th Jun 2003, 00:33
Fantastic site!

No 147 intrigues me. There is one other (earlier) pic of a diffrent russkie aircraft with the same bizarre landing gear - a retractable leg and saucer shaped footplate a la Lunar Module. What on earth kind of planes were these? VTOL, ekranoplan? Any ideas?

28th Jun 2003, 18:08
Looks rather like a cross between a hydrofoil and an ekranoplane - may be they tried mixing the "technologies" a bit.

I seem to recall that there was an Auster which flew with some sort of hydrofoil undercarriage... where did I see that pic?