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Aerodynamisist
15th Jun 2003, 13:48
I'm returning to flying after a short absence and I used to carry a check list of what documents would be required of me in the case of a ramp check, I think it was from air BP. I have yet to be ramp checked but I think the list for a VFR flight would be:

License
Medical
Two pairs of glasses (vision correction required on medical)
Maintenance release
ERSA
VTC and WAC (current and relevant)
Weight and balance
Weather and notams including head office notams if going more than 50 nm from base


Is this sufficient or would someone care to add to this ?

swh
15th Jun 2003, 14:57
Navigation/fuel log
Flight manual/CoA/CoR/Radio licence/Fire bottle licence (if reqd)
Flights over water/DRA - survival equipment

Capt Fathom
15th Jun 2003, 19:45
Patience
Sense of Humour

compressor stall
15th Jun 2003, 19:57
According to the CARs:


302 Production of licences etc.
(1) Any person required under these Regulations to be the holder of a licence, other than a flight crew licence or a special pilot licence, shall, on demand by an authorised person, produce the licence for inspection by the authorised person.

(2) The owner or pilot in command of any aircraft shall, on demand, produce or cause to be produced for inspection by an authorised person, any certificates, licences, log books or other documents relating to the aircraft and, if it carries passengers or cargo, the list of names of the passengers or the bills of lading and the manifest, as the case may be.
Penalty: 5 penalty units.


Cross reference that to:


139 Documents to be carried in Australian aircraft
(1) Subject to subregulation (2), regulation 317 of these regulations and
regulation 21.197 of CASR, an Australian aircraft shall, when flying,
carry:
(a) its certificate of registration;
(b) its certificate of airworthiness;
(c) unless CASA otherwise approves, its maintenance release and
any other document approved for use as an alternative to the
maintenance release for the purposes of a provision of these
Regulations;
(d) unless CASA otherwise approves, the licences and medical
certificates of the operating crew ;
(e) the flight manual (if any) for the aircraft ;
(f) any licence in force with respect to the radio equipment in the
aircraft;
(g) if the aircraft is carrying passengers—a list of the names, places
of embarkation and places of destination of the passengers;
(h) if the aircraft is carrying cargo—the bills of lading and manifests with respect to the cargo.
Penalty: 10 penalty units.

(2) An aircraft operating wholly within Australian Territory is not
required, when flying, to carry a document specified in paragraph
(1) (a), (b), (f) or (g).

So...what you need to produce are:


Your Licence
Your Medical Certificate
The Flight Manual
The Maintenance Release
Pax list or Freight Manifest


And that's it. Without a search warrant, they cannot ask for anything more.

Remember they will usually appraoch you as you are in the middle of unloading pax etc. Remind them that your primary responsibilty is to supervise the pax on the tarmac, and that they are welcome to look at the exterior of the aircraft, and you will produce the documentation they require when you are able.

Place the above documents on the seat, and zip up your nav bag. :D

Know your rights and their rights. They know yours! Shut up and produce the minimum. Don't incriminate your self! Have copies of the above regs shrunk to A5 in the back of your licence. Place it between the licence and the medical so the officers cannot help but notice them!

Checkboard provides some excellent links in
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56285&highlight=Ramp+Check


SWH
Reference navigation logs...if, hypothetically you were issues with a search warrant, what are the minimums for one?

78 Navigation logs
(1) The pilot in command of an aircraft shall keep a log of such
navigational data as is required to enable him or her to determine the geographical position of the aircraft at any time while the aircraft is in flight.
Penalty: 10 penalty units.

(2) The log shall be kept in chronological order and, in the case of an Australian aircraft engaged on an international flight, shall include the following information:
(a) points of departure and destination;
(b) required track;
(c) wind velocity used for calculations;
(d) headings flown;
(e) true airspeed;
(f) position lines, fixes and pinpoints obtained;
(g) times of alteration of headings;
(h) estimated times of arrival at turning points and destination; and
(i) such other information relevant to the navigation of the aircraft as CASA directs.


Now, my interpretation of data that can be used to determine the geographic position of the aircraft (for a domestic flight) could be a GPS unit, with simply a departure time on a scrap of paper (the corner of the weather perhaps). You can cross reference that with your groundspeed for a track distance.

I'm not condoning this practice however!

AMRAAM
16th Jun 2003, 15:25
Aerody.

A friend of mine in the NT used to carry the form with him as part of his flight reference book.

It is a CASA form available from the MOSP. I had a look on the CASA site but could not find a reference to it to copy or post here. Maybe some other Pruner can help here, someone like BIK maybe.

I sugest that you go to a CASA office and ask for one. Not sure if there is a restriction on giving one out, but it can't hurt to ask.

The form did vary for some types of operations but was fairly generic to cover almost all GA operations. There were no tricks or secret items for CASA to cath you out with, it did appear to be the normal and common things.

Torres
16th Jun 2003, 16:31
And the two most recent copies of Payboy magazine conspicuously on the co pilots seat.

Distracts hell out of them! :} :}

:8

dingo084
16th Jun 2003, 19:34
Forget all the above 'cos the mermaids will find something that you don't have.

Therefore the most important things you will need are:
Mastercard
Visa Card
Amex Card
Diners Card
Cheque Book
Letter of Credit
Bank Overdraft

That should just about cover the 'Penalty Points'

Ding:yuk:

currawong
20th Jun 2003, 15:17
Vaso, jar of , large, Quantity 1

scud_runner
24th Jun 2003, 19:50
From previous experience the guys I have had have been very friendly and professional. (No I don't work for CASA) ;) They hovered around until the Pax were escorted off the airport then came over introduced himself and gave me the speel about being from CASA and this being a random check blah blah blah
From memory they want:

License, Medical, Aircraft Manual, Airworthiness Certificate, Checklist, Emergency checklist, MR (checking hours and cross checking items written down), DAPS, ERSA, WACS, TAC, VTC, currency of all of the above, asking how much rest in last 24 hours, time starting work, duty hours, check your approvals in license, flight plan, Ramp weight, TO weight, Landing weight, fuel burn in KGs, empty weight, pax weights and freight, DG's and paperwork, fuel reserves, catergory of flight, CG and will get you to cross check it for them, carriage of survival gear (if required) Fuel log (if needed say on a piston) weather and notams, winds in the flight plan, seat belts, child seat belts, checked the pressurisation system and the oxygen masks and probably a 1000 other things that I have forgotten by now!!! Anyway they were pretty through.

My suggestion is that you just leave everything in the flight bag thus you can't get caught out on leaving the old license, or DAPS behind trick!! Also having a good manifest system and making sure the company has the right documentation in the aircraft will also cover you for most things they want.

I have had friends who have been pinged for:
no license with them, MR problems, out of date maps, and have heard of someone getting done overloaded (whoops!!!) :\

Have also heard a good story about a crew getting done for not having enough reserves because the CASA guy thought that Special Alternate Minima was something they had made up to cover them for landing without fuel for an alternate!! Suffice to say that about a week later that had the non compliance item removed, but no apology was given!!!!!!!! Makes you wonder!!

One of the guys I had once couldn't understand the concept of an aircraft being landing weight limited!!!!! He wanted to know why the MTOW for that sector was different to the one he had in front of him in the manual. I then had to go and explain why the TO weight changes depending on the length of the sector!!