Ghana Airways BKO/ACC schedules

[number9]

Anyone here know much about Ghana Airways' operations between Accra, Ghana and Bamako, Mali?

They've changed their schedule a couple times in the last weeks, and when they do they fail to notify both the Bamako & Johannesburg offices of changes.

Trying to call the Accra office on the telephone is an exercise in futility, though I don't know if it's a problem with `phones in Mali or Ghana - I suspect both, however...

[Gunship]

:ouch: Sorry to be so negative but I am / WAS an "old" Ghana Airways sucker for punishment ...

NEVER, EVER trust them with ANY THING ... so yes they are / might be the only one's doing that route so be prepared NOT to fly the day / date that was issued to you.

Yes they did have a "schedule" to Bamako the last time I was there. I think Million Air still did that route.

3 weeks ago ... 1 one of the 5 "schedule flights" from Accra to Freetown arrived .. never mind on time / date ... 4 did not arrive bru :ouch:

So yes and NO ... Phone Millionair in Jhb they will most probably be the most helpfull.

Cheers (and lotsa luck)

Gunnsss :cool:

[Gunship]

Number9 bru ... you live there .. can they not tell you from "that end" what is happening ?

I pressume you are out of the country then ?

Try Johan Botha - I am sure he will be very helpfull (from Millionair)

Mr Johan Botha
Executive Director and Company Secretary
Telephone +27 11 390-2710
Fax +27 11 390-2715
Mobile +27 82 651 2683
e-mail [email protected]

[number9]

Gunship: Yep, I live & work in Bamako - I'm the IT guy for a exploration company, and one of my tasks is coordinating all the expat travel. Usually it goes well, except for when we have guys going through Ghana!

Normally our routes back are BKO-CDG-SIN-PER or BKO-CDG-KUL-PER, but a handful of guys choose (or are forced to) go BKO-ACC-JNB-PER. And the BKO-ACC leg is twice-weekly, with predictable - i.e. none whatsoever - Ghanian reliability.

You're right, though, it's a MillionAir charter - a superb DC9, from memory. ;) Thanks for the contact information re Mr Botha, I'll certainly telephone him when I've got some questions.

We've had expats coming in/going to Accra twice a week for the past month and a half, I think only one of them has been on-time so far - in fact he was early!

[Gunship]

Ok number9 ... hope you can sort it out.

Which one of the abbreviations (sorry bit out of touch with them ) are from Dakar - if any ?

Do you guys know about the direct flight Jhb - Dakar with SAA ?

Cheers and brgds,

Gunss :cool:

[number9]

number9: Nah, none of our boys fly through Dakar. I do, know, though of the Dakar-Jo'burg flight; however STA only from from Bamako to Dakar twice a week or so - if you're lucky they might be flying on the days that Ghana are not, but unfortunately the overlap isn't consistent enough for us to utilise - at this stage, anyway.

So where abouts are you located, anyway? Freetown?

[Gunship]

So where abouts are you located, anyway? Freetown?

Yip ... Freetown by the Sea .... :ok: :cool: :ok:

[concordino]

Number9,

I think there is at least a daily flight BKO-DKR. STA isn’t the only carrier doing that sector. There is also ASI (Air Senegal International), which is actually the best carrier in West Africa for the moment (they have two brand new 737-700s).
ASI may have already started flights to Accra but do not know if they go via BKO.
Other carriers doing BKO-DKR are Cameroon Airlines and Air Ivoire.
All of these airlines have traffic rights to Dakar.

Hope this Helps.
:cool:

[number9]

Well, it's happened again. Ghana Airways have decided not to fly on Thursday, not to fly on Saturday and are contemplating flying on Sunday morning.

FFS!

We can sometimes get guys on a DC9 chartered by AngloGold, however at XOF316,000 CFA one-way it's not bloody cheap! How often is the DKR-JNB flight operated by SAA?

concordia: Yep, you've got me there - there are quite a few BKO-DKR carriers now. I can think of Air Senegal, Cameroon Airlines, STA, possibly Ethiopian Airlines also.

And in staggeringly stupid news, Ethiopian Air fly from Bamako to Accra twice a week - however the Ghanian government will not allow them to carry passages!


:yuk:

[Gunship]

Well, it's happened again. Ghana Airways have decided not to fly on Thursday, not to fly on Saturday and are contemplating flying on Sunday morning.


:p :O :D Wha ha ha ha ... sudden ouburst of absolute uncontrolable laughter ... hate those words ... but I told you so ... .... :E

[Dew Point]

Gents,

All this changes on Ghana schedules are caused by operating flights with one (1) DC-9 (Million Air) to West Coast.

Since there is limitations on flight and duty (South African CAA regulations), you cannot expect crew to fly out of duty to please Ghana Air and maintain schedule of 300 hours with two crew and one aircraft.

If they could introduce(??) another aircraft on their West Coast schedules, there would be no disruption to their 'published' schedules.

Gents, it is all about money - check their total debt up to now, and everything will be more clear....

[number9]

Gunship: Oh no, I didn't expect anything to change.. I just hoped that I could go a week without losing someone in Ghana. :)

Dew Point: Then if that's the case, why are they advertising that they'll fly to a schedule which they can never keep? I wouldn't really care if they flew once a fortnight so long as they flew when they say they will fly, it's just the fact that they very very rarely stick to the schedule that they themselves write.

Especially seeing as, from what I understand, they refuse to let other commercial operators carry pax into Ghana; and they're allegedly trying to setup a west-African regional airline to be run out of Ghana

[Gunship]

Dew Point Gents,

All this changes on Ghana schedules are caused by operating flights with one (1) DC-9 (Million Air) to West Coast.

Since there is limitations on flight and duty (South African CAA regulations), you cannot expect crew to fly out of duty to please Ghana Air and maintain schedule of 300 hours with two crew and one aircraft.

If they could introduce(??) another aircraft on their West Coast schedules, there would be no disruption to their 'published' schedules.

Gents, it is all about money - check their total debt up to now, and everything will be more clear....

Ja ... Ja .. Ja .. Dew Point ... but that just mean "we" are to Kaksleg to tell the rest of the World / Africa to get ..... (you know what) ..

Why is Millionair still in bed with Ghana Scareways .. and do not get me wrong .. check the archives - I have ALWAYS came up for Millionair as i saw them as the only peace of hope that Ghana Scareways has !

Yes you can quote the SA regs ... what are you guys doing about it ? That part needs answering as you guys (pressume you are in Millionair) are envolved (in bed) with those :} oke's :} .


Ok ... ok ... I am relaxed again ...



Then if that's the case, why are they advertising that they'll fly to a schedule which they can never keep? I wouldn't really care if they flew once a fortnight so long as they flew when they say they will fly, it's just the fact that they very very rarely stick to the schedule that they themselves write.

Especially seeing as, from what I understand, they refuse to let other commercial operators carry pax into Ghana; and they're allegedly trying to setup a west-African regional airline to be run out of Ghana

EXACTLY number9 ... EXACTLY ..

:ok:

[Dew Point]

Gunns,

Do agree with your comments - why do you publish a schedule (Ghana Airways) when you are almost certain that you would not be able to maintain it.
But that is a question of the way Ghana Air conduct business.

Question of MAC being in bed with GH - is something else.

Gunns, MAC tries to run business like any other airline company.
You try to service clients needs as professionally as you can, not disregarding safety and regulations.
MAC is not in bed with GH, and does not make decisions on schedules or any other commercial matters.
Question of GH not allowing other competitors into the market is another story, and I cannot comment on that.
But drawing MAC’s name into mud due GH actions, you would agree, is a bit unfair.

:confused:

[Gunship]

.. Dew Point .. ok we know now that you are envolved with Million Air (MAC) ?

Thanks for your replies it is always to hear the truth "out of the horses" mouth.

As I said on many ocassions before .. I have the highest "respect " for your crews and your aircraft. I have a lot of inside gen what happens between you and Ghana Airways.

Bin drinkin with your crews and your hosteis ... uhmm ok what was I saying.

Anyway my sincere appologies if I did a bit of mud-slinging. I really do appologise - I have read through my post now and maybe I was a bit "harsh" on you, but then again how els (Ernie) would I get a good respons from you oke's ;)

Seriously ... the topic is Ghana Airways SCHEDULES and it flowed into your company ... I take my hat of to you guys for still flying there and taking the 5hit that get's thrown at you.

As a disgruntled pax I can tell you many, many stories ,,, your answer will be ... but that is Ghana Airways and not us.

And I will agree with you ! :p

Are you guys happy to continue like that ?

PS: A tip - just wipe at any clues of Millionair on your aircraft and make it Ghana Airways as people here HATE GA ! And that is with a passion ! Including of course me ! :*

Cheers and sorry again if the mud hit you mate.

What about some other postings other than Millionair / MAC ...

Sunair ?

Cheers and best regards,

Gunssss

[ifzulu001]

For THE answer to all the BKO-ACC problems: contact THE BKO-ACC specialists (charters only): [email protected]
They fly on demand anywhere in West Africa if I'm correct.
Cheers,
IZ

[number9]

Any idea whatsoever on the price, off the top of your head? We don't really have enough demand to charter a plane, irrespective of size - we have a few expats going through every few weeks, though recently it's been a little busier.

I know AngloGold charter a plane (DC9, sometimes), doing BKO & ACC, however it's very expensive (around USD$550 each way) and seats are limited - as we're not AngloGold, we're a contractor to them.

Thanks, though - I will give them a call on Monday.


Chris