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I. M. Esperto
16th May 2003, 00:59
Since when is 3,000' low? More 9-11 over reaction.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-plane0515,0,4014996.story?coll=ny%2Dnynews%2Dheadlines
Low Flight Raises 9/11 Fears

By Graham Rayman and Glenn Thrush
Staff Writers

May 14, 2003, 9:42 PM EDT

Mayor Michael Bloomberg is irked at federal aviation officials for causing a brief stir blocks from Ground Zero early Wednesday by allowing a plane packed with U.S. soldiers to fly low over the city.

The incident led to a mistaken 911 call of a plane in the East River and a number of calls to the city and the FAA from concerned New Yorkers, officials said.

Mayoral spokesman Ed Skyler said the city received just two minutes notice before the incident.

"Considering the world we live in and New York City's recent history, one would expect a little more consideration, sensitivity and notice from the FAA when they authorize a plane to fly at that altitude over lower Manhattan," Bloomberg said in a statement.

At about 8:30 a.m., the FAA air traffic control center in Garden City granted a request from a U.S. government-chartered Continental Airlines flight 3021, carrying soldiers returning from Iraq, to fly at about 3,000 feet over the city on an approach to Newark Airport, said FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac. The typical altitude is 3,500 to 6,000 feet. The request was granted to give the soldiers a closer view of the city skyline and the Statue of Liberty, according to a written statement from the FAA.

In the statement, FAA officials said they "regret any negative effect this flight had on some New York City residents. The FAA has since issued an order that future similar requests will not be granted." Salac said she had no knowledge of a two-minute notification.

Continental Airlines spokesman Rahsaan Johnson declined to comment, citing agreements with the Defense Department.

The sight of the plane spurred one person to call 911, at 8:32 a.m. to report a plane in the river at the FDR Drive and Broad Street, a FDNY spokesman said. Fire Department units were available for their next job in seven minutes.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly called the low flight "inappropriate" and noted that he found out about it in the afternoon.

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alexb757
16th May 2003, 03:15
Over-reaction maybe but certainly understandable. You needed to be in NYC on that fateful day to truly appreciate the enormity of what happened.
Unless on final approach, 3000' for a B777 is pretty low, especially in that geographic area.

I. M. Esperto
17th May 2003, 00:26
Published approaches for LGA and JFK have lower than that, and they fly over NYC.

Tinstaafl
17th May 2003, 09:27
Being paranoid doesn't make it reasonable either...

Flap 5
17th May 2003, 15:49
This was a very stupid thing to do. ATC and the pilots should have known better. The sensitivity of this issue can not be underestimated.

Max Sectors
17th May 2003, 20:48
If everyone in NY is so paranoid and nervous now (and with good reason!) then make the place a no-fly zone and be done with it.

Anyway, 3000' isn't low.

farefield
19th May 2003, 03:22
Jeez,so is everybody doing Khe Sanh approaches to La Guardia for instance?And what about if somebody(heavyjet,due to strong northwesterly!) has to do a visual to the short runway at EWR(the direction escapes me now).

Does that mean there is going to be an outcry whenever this happens?

Everything possible is being done now to prevent the sort of hijacking which might cause a repeat of September 11th, so people on the ground ,give us a break please, stop being so lily livered and get back in the air yourselves!:confused: