Micturition Syncope

[carbonfibre]

A question for someone qualified i suspect,

Would the above condition preclude you from holding an aviation medical?

I have serched the CAA website and apparently not. !!

Any takers

[Circuit Basher]

Not a medical opinion, but a search of the Web to find out what this is (as I'd never heard of it) gave the following info regarding diagnosis, etc:

Also known as fainting, syncope (SIN-cuh-pee) is a brief, sudden loss of consciousness. It is a symptom of an underlying cause or condition, not a disease itself. Syncope may be due to harmless causes, or it may be due to more serious underlying cardiovascular or neurologic conditions. Tests that may be run include a tilt table test, which is used to assess neurocardiogenic syncope — fainting due to a reflex that leads to a sudden drop in heart rate and blood pressure. Other tests that may be run include an echocardiogram, a stress test, a Holter monitor (or event monitor), a cardiac catheterization or an electrophysiologic study. In addition, a CT scan or an MRI may be used to evaluate possible neurologic causes. Treatment will depend on the underlying cause that is revealed.

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Syncope is a brief, sudden loss of consciousness. Fainting occurs when the brain is starved for oxygen due to temporarily inadequate blood flow. It can occur after standing up quickly, working or playing too hard, feeling strong emotions or while taking certain medications (e.g., antihypertensives). Syncope is a symptom of an underlying cause or condition, not a disease itself. Often, the underlying cause of a fainting episode cannot be found.

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Micturition syncope. An abrupt loss of consciousness during urination. It often occurs in men whom wake up at night to urinate. The cause is unknown.


I would expect that once the CAA spot this on your form, you should at least be prepared for some heavy duty back-up from your GP / Specialist and most likely an exercise ECG at the minimum. You *definitely* need to talk to an AME about this.

[Ascend Charlie]

Sounds like someone taking the p155 to me....

[QDMQDMQDM]

Any cause of recurrent syncope is likely to set alarm bells ringing at the CAA. That said, I can't comment on whether this will be an exclusion.

QDM

[carbonfibre]

OK

Ascend charlie, shows your maturity of any situation anyway, but thanks for the replies, there are 3 main types none are going to cause probs at an aircraft controls because of the situations needed to make it happen, only ever happened once, over a 35 year span, doc says just a name given to it, most people suffer from the fact if you get up too fast you get light headed.

And its not on a list of restrictions at the CAA

And i should point out its not me!! a friend went to CAA for class one and passed!!?

Just a thought, EEG's i am told by a Doc, are generally unrealiable unless a problem is pronounced in its nature, and that an excercise ECG is not going to find the problem either, he runs distance and very fit so!!! as the replys pointed out unlikely to find underlying problem!!! just some thought though huh

Thanks for the replies

[Circuit Basher]

Not trying to imply anything either way and don't know the severity of the condition and the medical history, but JAR FCL3 does state:
A history of one or more episodes of [disturbance] of consciousness [of uncertain cause] is disqualifying. [A single episode of such disturbance of consciousness] may be accepted by the AMS when satisfactorily explained [but a recurrence is normally disqualifying].
It was on this basis that I suggested discussions with an AME.