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Out Of Trim
23rd Feb 2003, 18:04
Just found this item on www.landings.com and thought it might be of some interest to Flight Deck Crews.. :eek:


My name is JB, I am a DC-10 Captain for FedEx. I am also a Police Officer for the Memphis Police Department. My purpose in writing this is to share some of my thoughts regarding actions a pilot might consider when faced with a modern-day hijacker. These thoughts are "outside-the-box" when it comes to the way we've all been trained. Neither the FAA nor our companies will suggest any of these techniques or implement them as a part of our normal training cycles. They couldn't for fear of lawsuits.

I am distributing this via e-mail to buddies I've flown with. I'm asking them to send it to their circle of friends within the industry, and for you to send it to yours. I know most of us have e-mail, and I hope this reaches the next to face the horror of some religious fanatic onboard. We have all had "training" in what to do in case of a hijacking; try to keep the hijacker calm, make him think you're doing what he wants, take him where ever he wants to go, etc., etc., etc. Save your passengers, your crew, and your aircraft.

In an emergency, you will revert to that training. When our unfortunate peers were faced with the screams of the Flight Attendants and hijacker's demands to open the cockpit door, their training probably made them open the door. When the fanatics made demands, their training told them to comply as best they could. I can only wonder what their thoughts were as they left the cockpit and were tied up in the back of the plane; what they thought as they descended over New York... I hope the fanatics had to kill them in their seats and drag their dead bodies out of the cockpit. But, I bet they did as they were trained to do...

As you look back over recent hijackings, FedEx, Egypt Air, and now the September 11th hijackings, you see a perpetrator who, for one reason or another wants to take over the airplane and kill himself. Each of these hijackers, except for the FedEx incident, were successful. They took over the airplane and killed everyone onboard. If you're following the news programs today, you hear a lot about how we could let these hijackers learn to fly. You would think if knowing how to fly would guarantee a successful hijacking, Auburn Calloway (the FedEx hijacker) would have been a hijacker success story. He was a Navy pilot, a martial arts student, a fellow FedEx crewmember, and he took all the weapons he needed: hammers, knives and a spear gun. He didn't have to overcome any Flight Attendants or demand they open the cockpit door. He just went back to his bag, took out his hammer came back into the cockpit and started crushing skulls.

The crewmembers on that flight didn't worry about Flight Attendants; they didn't worry about passengers. All three pilots left the cockpit and fought a hand-to-hand, life-or-death battle. To survive today's hijacker, you cannot worry about your passengers; you cannot worry about your Flight Attendants. You must develop a mind-set that everyone onboard - including yourself - is already dead. Because, if the hijacker is successful in taking over your airplane, not only you, your crew, your passengers and your aircraft are lost, but thousands on the ground are at risk. One of the reasons the FedEx crew survived, is the extraordinary actions of the co-pilot. Although he had brain injury, the co-pilot took the DC-10 and immediately executed a half-roll. This maneuver took the hijacker off his feet as the Captain and S/O were struggling with him. During a point in the maneuver, the hijacker, Captain and S/O were thrown back behind the cockpit door. When he righted the airplane, the F/O then left his seat and joined the fight in the galley area of the plane. It was only after the Captain determined the hijacker was subdued, he returned to the cockpit and flew the airplane to landing. Very few of us have had to confront true evil. Fewer still have seriously considered taking the life of another human being. I believe this is the reason the FedEx crew did not kill their attacker. The crew's heroism that day is beyond belief and any action that leads to a safe landing and recovery cannot be argued with. But, when the Captain left the F/O and S/O, thinking the situation was under control, he was mistaken. The F/O and S/O had sustained serious, life threatening injuries. The hijacker had not. As the Captain flew the aircraft, the hijacker, who had surrendered, began the fight anew. As the airplane landed, the hijacker was just moments away from overcoming the two crewmembers.

I mention this for your consideration. I would suggest that you make the conscious decision to kill anyone who tries to take your airplane from you. Today we are at war. The hijacker who comes through your cockpit door is going to kill you and everyone onboard.

So, how do you do that? What weapons are available to us as pilots?

The Intercom. Command that all men come forward and fight with the hijackers. You have many able-bodied men onboard. They are sitting in shock not knowing what to do. Command they come forward and help you kill your attackers.

And, they will come.

The Airplane. Get the hijackers off their feet. Go into an immediate dive to float them to the ceiling. Then execute a 6G positive maneuver and hope they hit their head or break their back as they hit the floor, galley shelf, etc. Dump the cabin - maybe one of the hijackers has a head cold. Pull the fire handles, shut the start levers and turn the fuel valves off. If you lose the battle, at least the airplane won't be used as a guided missile on a kamikaze mission. With luck, maybe these guys didn't learn how to do an in-flight restart. Then leave the cockpit - all of you, and kill your attackers - don't believe it when they surrender - don't be nice to them - KILL THEM.

Flare Gun. If your airplane has one, the Captain might consider making sure it's loaded and secured next to his bag.

The Crash-Axe. I would suggest you have your co-pilot take it from its holder and secure it next to him so he has it immediately available.

Your Flashlight. The FAA use to require a 2 cell. A 3 cell Mag-Light that makes an excellent weapon. If your maneuvers have the hijackers on the floor writhing in pain.

Your 'Stolen' Hotel Bic Pen: an attacker's eye, ear, throat, or into the area just under the jawbone...

Your Hand and Fingers: eyes are a good target (It will confuse the hell out of him when he finds himself looking at his shoes as they dangle there on the ocular nerves).

Your Teeth. Remember Hannibal Lecter. Eat a nose, a cheek, or a finger. And keep eating. Attack with all viciousness. A piranha is a small fish, but it's greatly feared. A hijacker is not expecting you to eat him and it might make him forget why he got on your airplane to begin with. It will, at least, impress his buddies.

Now here's my wish list of things the FAA could do to help, especially in this time of war.

Arm the Captain. The battle is not going to require any long shots and a small revolver would be a good choice. It would hold off the attackers long enough for you to disable your aircraft. If the attackers claimed the red package they were holding was a bomb, I'd shoot out the door glass and hope the door would be ripped out and the hijacker and his package would be sucked out. And hey, I if I got sucked out with him, I'd try to fly myself to the hijacker look in his face and laugh at him all the way to the ground.

Invite the Local Police to Jump Seat. Police are always looking for something free. Donut shops use to be a favorite target for robbers - until they started giving donuts to the Police. Robbers don't rob donut shops anymore. I would suggest each Police Department send the FAA a list of the best shots on the department and those guys and their guns would be welcome on my airplane. Fill every vacant seat with armed Police - give them a donut - and tell them to shoot anyone who gives your Flight Attendant any problems.

Stop this Silly No-Knife Rule. Make it public. Tell the public they're welcome to bring their pocketknives onboard. Then everyone will bring them. When you make your intercom call for help, you'll have a dozen or more knife wielding helpers trying to make sure their new Gerber tastes fanatics blood. There are even a few of them who'd want to keep ears as souvenirs. Law enforcement agencies are all aware there are copycat criminals and fanatics. We have a number of loony fanatical hate-groups here in the USA: ALF, PETA, KKK, Army of God, Anti-abortionists, and the list goes on. It doesn't matter the size of your airplane. Right now, as I write this, there is an anti-abortionist escapee here in the Memphis area. He's seen what happened at the World Trade Center. A small commuter plane would do a great job on an abortion clinic, or on an animal research facility, or on a local synagogue, mosque, etc., etc., etc... None of us is immune. Take some time and consider your actions if this event should ever happen to you.

My prayer is none of you ever have to face this kind of decision.

Best of luck to you, and may God Bless.


Thought Provoking at the very least!

Dozza2k
23rd Feb 2003, 19:43
Thought provoking indeed!!!
i can understand why this FedEx Capt is addressing the issue of a modern hijacker attacking cockpit crew. The idea of calling up able bodied men on the intercom may well be a good one, but ask yourself:
How many of you would get up and do this first, without waiting for other men to get up before you?
You don't want to be left hangin' in the wind.
Also the moral challenging 'shoot to kill' attitude is highly controversial, a flight crew would need big cojuna's do implement such a sentence. This will vary, obviously depending on if he has killed anyone else in the cabin beforehand etc.
Also arming the captain with a 'trusty six shooter' would cause another safety problem? I am not a commerical pilot, i hope to join your 'fraternity' soon, but would'nt 9mm slugs flying around the cabin cause a risk of depressurisation?
Just my thoughts.
Dozza :cool:

witchdoctor
23rd Feb 2003, 20:55
Reads like something straight out of the low cost customer care manual - scary!

slugman
23rd Feb 2003, 23:44
Great - just what we need - airborne gun battles. Not to mention “flare guns…calling able bodied men… in this time of war…Then leave the cockpit - all of you, and kill your attackers - don't believe it when they surrender - don't be nice to them - KILL THEM.” - what is this guy saying !

I think more worrying is this attitude that more guns, knives and things that go bang will make things safer. I think dealing with the ‘new breed’ of terrorist needs a little more thought, as opposed to a knee jerk ’lets arm everybody’.

Also this idea that crew will being doing ‘battle’ is also a little over the top. I know if it really hit’s the fan then somebody may do something but I’m sure most people would be scared sh1tless ! ( Self included ) He’s a policeman but I’m not sure he understands that people outside the job may not realise what it takes to actually try and kill someone who sticking an AK up your left nostril !

Slug
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TR4A
24th Feb 2003, 16:45
I am not a commerical pilot, i hope to join your 'fraternity' soon

More arm chair captains - great.

This was posted shortly after 9-11.

Captain Jason Dahl, UAL Flight 93, was a classmate of mine at San Jose State University. On Jason's flight the passengers DID attack the hijackers but after the crew was killed and in control of the aircraft.

The passengers here in the USA know that if something like 9-11 happened again that they are going to step up and defend the airplane. They are not going to sit there and be "scared sh1tless !" like you Brits.

Once the cockpit has been breached it's all over.

"Let's roll!"

crackerjack
24th Feb 2003, 21:59
Like Malcolm Hagan and his crew you mean?

You Sir are an ar$e.

slugman
24th Feb 2003, 23:21
TR4A

This is exactly the attitude which is going to cause more problems. The events you mention were horrible, but you are reinforcing the ‘narrow minded attitude’ image which a growing number of people believe Americans have. “Lets Roll”...prat !

Slug
:=

TR4A
25th Feb 2003, 01:06
Who the hell is Malcolm Hagan? Are you talking about Captain William Hagan?

Lump Jockey
27th Feb 2003, 16:37
TR4A.........hmm, like us Brits, scared sh1tless, eh.........who won the war! Have it!!:mad:

NX211
28th Feb 2003, 06:44
Lump Jockey - I believe " we " won the war. By " we " I mean Great Britain and the United States. If you presume to think that England could have done it without us - you are mistaken.
We needed each other - we worked it out - we won.
We have come to the aid of Great Britain on numerous occassions, and as far as I know never made any demands on the UK for the help. We have a common background - let's not muck it up.
Just my thoughts - Or do you look upon us as pesky colonials.
These days I'm really hanging on tight to the 50% of me that came from England/Wales.

LOMCEVAK
28th Feb 2003, 10:25
On the point about manoeuvres to knock a hijacker off balance so that he/she can be incapcitated, I developed such a manoeuvre for a major international carrier and suggested procedures to work with it. There were some aspects that would need structural advice from the manufacturer but that should not be a stopper. It has not been implemented because, I believe, the company management did not wish to recommend and train for it unless it was mandated by the certification authority. I know that other carriers, certfication authorities and manufacturers have considered similar procedures. Yet, as far as I know, no airline has introduced one yet.

If we take some of the emotion from "Out of trim's" original post, there is a very valid message in it. Take it seriously and consider the parts that are feasible and acceptable. As he says, thought provoking.

Finally, Airbus flight control systems are so clever as to prevent you performing extreme manoeuvres such as these. Can you select Direct Law quickly enough?

Miserlou
4th Mar 2003, 21:06
I agree with the theme of the article. It is very important that you 'take the conscious decision to kill'. You will then be all the better equipped and that's what it's about-having a plan.

Sean Connery? The Untouchables? "How far are you prepared to go?"

And just to set the record straight- Do you think the Americans really made all the difference during the less than three months they were on the ground at the end of WWl?

Where were they when we needed them? The Battle of Britain? Sitting on their fat back sides until they themselves were attacked!

Duck-U-Suckerz
5th Mar 2003, 11:42
Well said Sir,
And you will notice that it's the UK. ALONE that is supporting your Mr Bush with thousands of troops and the Royal Navy and RAF as usual !!!

I think that the basic truth is as the Fed-DC10 skipper says, You have to take direct action IF the flight deck is breached. He dose however get a little carried away with the way he said it, I don't fancy eating Dusty Bin or his Mates thankyou.:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

Danny
5th Mar 2003, 12:47
The next anal retentive, mentally challenged oik to bring up either WWI, WWII or 'mines bigger than yours when it comes to war' into this thread will get an automatic ban and can go and spout off on some other aviation website.

I have never seen such infantile and pathetic posting from some of you! GROW UP and get a life! :rolleyes: