BY 762 to be based at LBA!

[ACE Dispatcher]

Due to apparent high demand at the begining of Summer 2003 season Britannia are to replace the B757 with a B762 for the months of May & June at Leeds/Bradford!!
Also MYT are to base a B757 during the S2003 season for the first time as they have been using a Skyservice A320 in previous years.

Based A/C at LBA for S2003:

1x BY 762 (May/June) 1x BY 757 therafter
1x MYT 757
4x Jet2 B733's
1x KLM F100
4x BMI EM4/EM3's
2x EZE J41's
1x AEU 733/73G (part of the week op on behalf of PlanetAir)

[682ft AMSL]

Crikey! - Thomson / Britannia increasing capacity at LBA. Whatever next?

ACE - It is the first time that MYT have put a B757 on in the summer, although they did dabble with a A321 a couple of years ago. They have been basing a B757 for the last few winters now.

682

[tightturnaround]

Just wondering how the above will affect the HUY IT's operated by the above two carriers, normally on 'W' patterns out of LBA. Anyone know further? Generally there's about 10 weekly MYT/BAL operated flights.

Would sure be nice to see a few more MYT 752 movements instead of the leased 320s, and it seems ages since we last saw a 76 in HUY! :D

Anyone from Brit or Myt care to enlighten us further....?

[Localiser Green]

That's interesting, where is this 762 going to come from?

Last plan I saw was:

1 based MAN
1 based NCL
2 based BHX (1 between 19/06-31/07)
1 based GLA (the second BHX one between 19/06 and 31/07).

So who is losing out in May / June? Manchester perhaps?

[HOODED]

With ACE's list and the BMI LHR F100 and the BE BHD CRJ and a visiting Bizjet that makes all 17 stands occupied! Looks like LBA will have to extend the apron and build some more stands!

[richardhall99]

I was wondering how Newcastle was going to cope this summer aswell:
BA: 757 (LHR) 737 (LGW)
BE: DH8 (BHD)
T3: 3x J41 (ABZ, BHX and SOU)
SN: AR8 (BRU)
UK: 100 (AMS)
EZY: 3x 737
AF: 146 (CDG)

surely we will get another rotation to DUB aswell as more to SVG although at the minute still looks like the one midday flight.

im not sure on what chaters are coming up here but with 12 stands already in use its going to be a squeeze.

[Go-arounder]

Off Subject but since Richard brought it up

Newcastle

T3 will (present plan??) night stop 4 J41 BB HI & 2X EGPD

The Charters
BAL B757 & B767
AIH A320 & A321
JMC B757
SCY B757
MDI MD80

Mail
HS74 & SH36

Hope all this comes off for Leeds and Newcastle, keep on booking………………….

[ACE Dispatcher]

Localiser Green: LBA's B762 is a BHX aircraft and the 757 is going from LBA to BHX for the first 2 months of the season.

NCL's B762 is now going to CWL and NCL to get B763! (from where I can't remember)

Hope this helps.

[Localiser Green]

ACE,

Thanks for the info. Is the CWL 762 / NCL 763 also just for May and June or for the whole season?

[GrahamK]

From what I've heard CWL will be 762 all summer, as will be the NCL 757 and 763.

[transwede]

Continuing to fly off the original thread but things at NCL are going to be interesting this summer.

With all the charters and schedules the airport authority are having problems finding enough check in desks, particularly on a saturday when over 25 charters and 15 schedules are programmed. In addition porters and terminal duty officers are being laid off.

Something bad is happening up north with BA pulling out of the regions (how long will NCL/BRS last with easy on the scene?) and staff lay offs left right and centre. I think easy have saved this brilliant airport.

And finally MD Airlines are not 'basing' an aircraft here in S2003, they are only operating 4 flights per week with crew based elsewhere and the aircraft either 'W'ing or positioning in.

[johnwalton]

Although the airport authority has gotten rid of many porters etc, companies like Servisair and Groundstar are recruiting heavily for the start of the summer season.

Personally, I think BA pulling out will be a great thing for the northeast in the long run. I can see Flybe (and EZY) expanding in the near future.

As for the charters, there's not really that much more capacity than there has been in recent years. There has been a gap ever since AMM removed their based unit a few years ago, MYT has reduced from a 757 to 321 and although JMC are basing a 757 its not operating as many flights as last season, so i'm not surprised BAL have taken the steps they have.

I imagine it will be chaos airside this summer with the common departure lounge for domestic and international departures. What with the "comprehensive and exciting range of airside retailing and catering facilities" that they are building not being available until Summer 2004 and all.

[Simon Lumley]

Does anybody know the exact aircraft the charter airlines are lining up for East Midlands this summer?

Cheers.

[Go-arounder]

Sorry off thread again but John MYT haven’t had a B757 at NCL for a long time been A320’s for years with the occasional B757 in the winter. This year will be an increase in seats with an A320 and a A321 instead of the 2 x A320’s!
Again glad to see Leeds on the up tho.
:)

[transwede]

Carrying on with the subject of NCL I was interested to hear the other day from a reliable airport source that the authority have a wish list of destinations, both charter and scheduled they would like to see introduced in the future. Interesting to see but most fit in very well with easyJets network and some have been looked at before.

1. ATH
2. NCE
3. PMI
4. MIL
5. GVA
6. FRA
7. CPH
8. AGP

In addition to these scheduled 'wished for' flights the airport would like to see charter flights introduced to more of North Africa and flights across the pond to the Caribbean!

Interesting to see what happens and if easys plans go ahead by the end of summer 2004 5 737's will be based and what new destinations do they have in store?

[Fandango71]

Back to the original topic.


Any idea if good sales will lead to an increased present at LBA from TUI in '04, as planning should be being done now.

cheers

Fandango

[TightSlot]

Fandango - I wouldn't place too much credence in any plans for S04 - There's too many brown trousers about S03 for them to be worrying about next year yet. There is a chance that (any) one of the big 4 may not make it through the year unless bookings pick up a bit sharpish

[Fandango71]

Tightshot

Good point! I just hope MyTravel make it through as they have increased their presence at LBA year on year. If they went, we'd really feel it.

The increase in capacity from Thomo's is a major shock as it is very much against previous years, where it has been a reduced presence. that said, very welcome!

regards

Fanadango

[johnwalton]

Sorry to deviate form the topic again...

Go-arounder,
Acutally, MYT did have a 757 based at Newcastle alongside the 320 last summer for the busiest holiday period.

G-PIDS during the easter holidays http://www.airliners.net/open.file/229601/M/
G-CCMY during the summer holidays http://www.airliners.net/open.file/263176/M/

Granted the 757 coverage didn't last the whole of the summer season, but thats still a reduction in capacity.

:=

[Go-arounder]

Sorry once again for being off thread but I have to say…….

Johnwalton
AIH/MYT did not have any based B757 in Newcastle last year, what you saw were either ‘W’ legs or aircraft filling in for sick Canadian Airbus’s.
For example the Easter B757’s were a short series of ‘W’ flights twice a week for four weeks, this year you will see DC10’s and B763 so a slight increase in pax’s sum what!
The summer visits where all ‘W’s or for broken A320’s. You will still see MYT ‘W’ this year.

Last winter MYT based an A320, summer 2 x A320’s and this winter another A320.

So I think you’ll find replacing a A320 with a A321 will most certainly increase pax’s!
:)

[OscarTangoRomeo]

Apparantly 4 of the BY weekly flights from HUY this summer will be operated by B767 equipment due to high demand for seats.
Should be interesting as the usual stands not large to enough handle this size. Only one remote stand big enough. Exciting times at HUY. Only recently started B757F from Iceland twice weekly with fish for processing in Grimsby - talk about ice to Eskimos!!!

[tightturnaround]

O.T.R.

Agree with you, will be great to see the 76 in HUY a bit more. Beg to differ about the stands tho.. 2 and 3 both nose in - upto 763 capable, 5/6 also, or combined upto DC10 size.

So shouldnt be a problem! a 762 really isnt much 'larger' in terms of dimensions than a 752 :)

[MerchantVenturer]

Much prefer a 757 to a 767 on a charter flight.

Far better chance in percentage terms of getting a window seat on the narrow, elegant bird.

Nothing worse than being stuck in the middle of the tube on a 767 - you might as well be riding a lift (elevator).

[OscarTangoRomeo]

Tightturnaround I have it on good authority that the 757 is only just within length limits to go on nose in stands at HUY (2 & 3)and therefore 767 will have to go on stand 7 which is on Southern Apron across stands 5 & 6. Gather 767s operarting for only two months of May-June in line with previous posting regarding same subjest at LBA.

[richardhall99]

According to Easternairways.com Newcastle is getting a 4x ABZ rotation: 2 J41 and 2 135 which carry on to SOU
New timings aswell

[tightturnaround]

O.T.R - Yes it would seem 762's replacing 752's at HUY on the 4 weekly BAL 'W''s from Leeds for 8 weeks. Stands 2/3 ok for 762 (it's only 4 feet longer than a 752) and have accepted the aircraft previously. Problem guess maybe wingspan when there's other traffic, but generally scheduling into HUY is such that there's only max. 1 other IT flight in at the same time as a 'larger' charter, ie 752/762.

Agree with MerchantVenturer, from a pax point of view though - nothing worse than being stuck in the middle of a 762 on a charter.. I am now always at check-in early.

Incidentally if of interest 3 of EZE's ABZ schedules ex HUY change to larger J41 equip. WEF Mon 10th

TT

[MD11FAN]

When did 767s last op into HUY? I thought it was @98(2/3 adhoc charters to Florida) when the stand layout was completely different(no nose-in stands). Tuesday afternoons should be interesting this May/June..AMM320, BY767, TCX 757 all in together between 1300-1400..good planning?

Also on a side note, KLMUK crew just told me that HUY-AMS changing from 6 x F50 to 2 x F50 & 2 x F70 from 29/3.

This summer looks good at HUY..first time to see regular 767, F70 and TU154s.

Matt

[transwede]

Going back to the NCL part of this thread apparantly Hola Airlines of Spain are basing a 737-300 at Newcastle for S2003 to operate onbehalf of Excel and Scandic!

[MerchantVenturer]

MD11FAN,

Re KLM uk , that's a loss of 40 seats each way every day isn't it?

Is this down to HUY not supporting the service, or is it more to do with KLM's general malaise? I believe that KLMCityhopper are reducing their flights from five to four a day at CWL. Not sure if the lost flight there is a F 50 (they have a mix of 50s and 70s on the route) or whether all the others will become F 70s there though.

[Localiser Green]

"From what I've heard CWL will be 762 all summer, as will be the NCL 757 and 763."

Actually I have found the NCL/CWL/LGW swaparound is for May to the end of July only, then it all reverts back to normal.

Start of May:

B763 from LGW goes to NCL
B762 from NCL goes to CWL
B752 from CWL goes to LGW

At the end of July:

B752 from LGW goes back to CWL
B762 from CWL goes back to NCL
B763 from NCL goes back to LGW