Aerad or Jeppersen

[Rotorbike]

Just wonder, those that have done a UK Instrument Rating if they used Aerad or Jeppersen manuals.. .. .Was it your decision or the flight school/instructors preference. . .. .Anyone used the other one since??. .. .Which have you found has an easier layout???. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 16 March 2002, 17:23: Message edited by: Rotorbike ]</small>

[greengage22]

There are 3 types of document:. .. .1: En route charts (or rad navs, if you prefer). .. .2: Flight information books. .. .3: SIDs, STARs, and approach plates.. .. .Of these, there is no question that the Aerad en route charts are just so much better than Jeppesen. Stiffer paper, several colours, and really neat clear printing, well laid out. No competition. Actually, the specification is from the RAF's No 1 Aeronautical Information Documents Unit at Northolt. Aerad have managed to swing a deal allowing them to ride on the back of the RAF, and so they share in the RAF's high standards. Clever guys.. .. .For the FLIP documents, ie, list of airfields, runways, navaids, etc, in text, there's not much to choose. Either is pretty good.. .. .AS for approach plates, I think, whatever turns you on. It's a matter of what you, personally, are used to. I prefer Aerad because of the use of colour and I find the printing a bit easier to read. But I wouldn't fight to the death with someone who prefers Jeppesen over it. And Jeppesen does have better world wide cover (at least, I think so).

[QNH 1013]

I think GG22 has given a good summary of the two.. .My initial choice was made by the groundschool (PPSC)who supplied Aerads for the distance learning course I took. These Aerads were frozen in time and so used the layouts of about ten years ago. In particular the en-route charts had changed significantly in their annotations such that Airways numbers and distances between waypoints had swapped positions. I had to learn how to use them again for the flying training.. .. .Flushed with the success of the "writtens" I decided to subscribe to either Aerad or Jepp so I would have my own current set for the flying training and my home computer practice. I rang up both organisations and asked them for samples of their current charts and plates. For what my opinion is worth, I decided to subscribe to Aerad (approx £160 first year, £130 to renew).. .. .I did the flying training for the IR at PAT (EGHH) and they too used Aerads but I'm sure you could have provided your own Jepps if you preferred.. .. .Whichever you choose, I think after a couple of years most pilots would rather change their wife than change their supplier of charts and plates.

[IRRenewal]

Don't they say that a PPL has one wife per 500 hours and a CPL/ATPL has one wife per 5000 hours <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> ?

[Manflex55]

Yes GG22 is right, Jeppesen cover a lot more airports than Aerad. Let's not forget that Aerad was once owned by British Airways so, outside the EU, they're mainly involved in BA or ex-BA destinations/alternates. It really depends on your type of operation. For example, I like the Aerad plates & charts and they were excellent for my IR training in the UK, but I couldn't use them for private flying in the US. Even major training airports like Vero Beach, Florida (FlightSafety's base) are not covered.. .. .MF

[PorcoRosso]

Even if I don't have any negative feedback on Aerad, I definitely prefer Jepp's for FLight planning, Cruise & approach. Despite they may show too much informations sometimes, and therefore are a bit confusing; I would also recommend them for flight training for the simple reason you need one plate for an ILS, without having to check your minimums on another ... Keep in mind the morse ident of navaid is "translated" on jepp's, not on aerad (not 2 years ago, for sure). .I confirm PAT doesn't mind students using Jepp's, as I did, as long as they are up to date.. .. .Another reason I'll go for Jeppesen preferably is that this company provides databases for GPS's , flight sims and flightplanning softwares ..;I think it helps to work with the same datas

[ImNot]

I'm sure you will find for every Aerad fan there is a Jepp fan. . .I beleive what you learn with is what you prefer. Whether a school uses Jepps or Aerads shouldn't be of too much concerne as long as the examiner is happy who cares. . .I get the distinct impression that a greater majority of air carriers supply Jepps but I'm sure I will be corrected.. .One really nice thing Jepp has introduced (in the US at least) over the last couple of years is a really cool, easy to understand at glance, pictoral missed approach instruction box under the plan view. . .The US NOS charts are slowly bringing this in and i'm sure anyone who has had the pleasure of using these charts will agree that they are by far the best of the lot. Unfortunately they only cover the US. . .Not only are they very good but put Jepp and Aerad to shame when you consider that for the price of a pint of larger and a packet of crisps you can buy plates for an area the size of the UK covering more airports. Of course we will always be the poor relation of the US when it comes to aviation though.. . . . <small>[ 17 March 2002, 03:12: Message edited by: Im Not ]</small>

[A and C]

Having used both (and both are OK for the IR)I would use the jepps all round its a better product with true world wide cover and not just the cover that the UK airlines want.. . . . <small>[ 17 March 2002, 13:25: Message edited by: A and C ]</small>

[aztruck]

Hey, a fan of NOS charts. Me too. I subscribed and got full Euro coverage for 200 dollars a year with the update service. The enroutes are great and the supplement is very useful. Only problem is the very restricted nature of the airfields for the plates.However, if you dont mind a bit of extra photocopying you can have a full set of charts on the cheap. Cost for the same coverage from Jepps would be over £1000. Also covers the Atlantic in one booklet, Narsaruaq, Sondestrom,Wick, Aberdeen, Reykjavik and Iquauit.

[ImNot]

Didn't know NOS covered Europe. Learn something new everyday <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

[Rotorbike]

Thanks all.. .. .After instructing in the US using the NOS and since flying using the Jeppersen the thought of a third set of charts existing filled me with horror.. .. .Nice to know the Aerad ones aren't as bad as I have been lead to believe.. .. .Think I'll stick with the Jepps....unless I have to buy them!!!. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />