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axiom
16th Jan 2003, 08:02
woomera;

Why can't we as Australians have an Australian "peculiar" icon of our own called "Bugg*ar"

I remind you I am responsible for the Bugg*r Australia movement and, like I warned you on D & G general aviation/AOPA thread, that I will (sorry, we will) stop at nothing until we get our just desserts (mango and ice cream would be nice),

and on a more serious note.

In the interim, a compromise could be reached by renaming an existing icon that truly reflects abandoned frustration and hopelessness in a discussion.

I guess even a Kiwi would understand, could you explain same to our other overseas bretheren.

You have not heard the end of this matter and I reiterate, (sorry, ask), how do you cut out newspaper print to paste it on pprune in a threatening manner? :D

Buster Hyman
16th Jan 2003, 11:15
I think the appropriate comment here is....BUGGRE OFF!

:rolleyes:

the wizard of auz
16th Jan 2003, 12:59
Bugga .......you mean you can't say Bugga.
Well Bugga that. :D

axiom
16th Jan 2003, 23:10
You can't use it with an "er" at the end I tried that.

OK so I can't spell either.:D

nasa
16th Jan 2003, 23:51
Woomera....As a concerned Australian Citizen, I for one am firmly against the use of a Bugga icon on this BB.....We should exercise our freedom of action and speech and have this disgusting proposal put to bed once and for all.

As a brand new Grandfather :D :D :D, I refuse to allow the future generations of nasa(s) to be subjected to this horrendous use of foul and unconscionable language/signage, without the minimum of the Mother of All Battles.

Traffic
16th Jan 2003, 23:54
It's simply technology boys and girls...dem new glass cockpits...

Da ol buggas bin replaced by dem kulad fings on da tape runnin up da side...

axiom
17th Jan 2003, 07:24
"struth !!" bugga bugga bugga, struth.

Sh*t I think it works.

Hey! nasa, surely the icon would be OK ??????

:) :)

traffic, I think I know you, were you involved in crocodile wrestling around Burketown or thereabouts..... no perhaps it was the Fly River.......no bugga me I don't know now :D :D

Hugh Jarse
17th Jan 2003, 07:35
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/sex.gif "Bugga" or;

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/nosh.gif "Burger"

axiom
17th Jan 2003, 07:56
How did you do that ?:confused: :confused:

OzExpat
17th Jan 2003, 10:19
Like this axiom... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/sex.gif

If ya right click the smiley (either one), then click "Properties" in the window that opens, you'll see a reference to the website belonging to one StopStart. He's got LOTS of smileys there - it's, ah, smiley heaven! :D

Kaptin M
17th Jan 2003, 22:58
I fail to see the problem!

BUGGEß :D

Hugh Jarse
19th Jan 2003, 05:43
Kaptin M: Sprichst Du Deutsch?

That looks suspiciously like a German 'SS'.

Don't mention the war!

Why, you started it! (Basil Fawlty circa 1974). :D

Ash767
19th Jan 2003, 08:23
There really is nothing wrong with using the word bugg#r.

The federal court said it was ok after a set of Toyota commercials went to air.

Sure we all know what the dictionary states. In some countries bugg#r is thought of as a taboo word as when they use it they are referring to it's true meaning.

However when the word is used in Australia as slang we are in fact not referring to the dictionary meaning but to simply express our frustration when we stuff something up like a bad landing for example.

To describe for example if someone is stuffing about i.e. " Stop bugg#ring about" we are simply implying to them to stop wasting time. The word is basically part of our slang culture and has been so for many years that we as Australians know when and where to use the word and that in most instances it is describing our frustration or time wasting antics rather than describing sodomy.


So let's have a icon describing our actions or thoughts, providing it is not used in a derogatory way.

Ash767

OzExpat
19th Jan 2003, 11:45
Well, without wantin to be toooo picky... we also say summat like :- "G'day ya ol bugga"! :D

Woomera
19th Jan 2003, 12:26
We are a world divided by a common language.

Words in common and accepted usage in one country are likely to get your head knocked off or worse in another.

The original usage of the word in question was indeed a description of one who comitted an unnatural form of intercourse.

It has however come to common useage in Oz in a much lighter form unrelated to it's original etymology and immortalised in that Oz motor car advertisement that I for one found hilarious.

Therefore, I am unable to argue against it's use (only) in D & G if it is found suitable for use on public TV in the appropriate context.

Having regard for the PPRuNe auto censor, the affectionate use of its Oz derivative "bugga" will be tolerated, provided only that it is used in the affectionate sense, ie say "G'day y'old bugga" or "bugga" as a display of despair or bewilderment.

It's use in any other form will attract the usual penalties.

I am not able to arrange a specific "icon" for its display as PPRuNe is a Global Forum and its use in other areas would almost certainly offend.

May I humbly suggest that we press the :rolleyes: into action as the accepted OZ icon for "bugga"

I think it sorta captures the "feeling" don't you think.??

Wizofoz
19th Jan 2003, 15:10
OOOhhh...

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/pfbbt.gif

OOOh YYessss...

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/boohoo.gif

OOOOOHHHHH YYYEEESSSS!!!!

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/usa.gif

YES!!

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/cheers.gif

YES!!

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/bangin.gif

YYYEEESSS!!!


was it good for you too?

LooseConnection
19th Jan 2003, 17:18
Thanks "W" now I can B..:rolleyes: ..r off to bed! I feel good. :D

Woomera
19th Jan 2003, 22:31
Having resolved that little issue it's off to Aircrew Notices with you then ;)

Wizofoz
19th Jan 2003, 23:06
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/stupid.gif


What happened? The URL is coming up on the post, not the smilie? It was working last night.

OzExpat
20th Jan 2003, 07:27
Woomera... I applaud a good and sensible decision in the localised toleration of "bugga", in context. I don't see a real need for a smiley to express an emotion that is already well catered for by use of the word itself. Just a pity that our good mate, the wizard of auz, can't use it in his signature, if he happens to stray outside of D+G...

Anyway, folks can use of any of the wide array of icons available on StopStart's site - or even those available here - to add reinforcement to the actual sentiment! Bugga! :D

Hugh Jarse
20th Jan 2003, 07:58
Woomera, I feel ripped off after going to all that trouble! ;)

Woomera
20th Jan 2003, 11:27
They were working last night and works of art were they.

I've checked the formatting and the .img thingies are intact, I can only suspect that da boiz in da bigga house have turned it off due to server load. :D

Wizofoz
20th Jan 2003, 12:43
WELL TELL THEM TO TURN "EM BACK ON!!! I NNNEEEEEDDDD MY SMILIES!!!!


please!

Capt Claret
21st Jan 2003, 07:34
Dear Mr Woomera,

Feeling semantic and contrary at the moment I ask;

How can the original use of the word refer to an unnatural form of intercourse if said form of intercourse can be observed from time to time between animals (I've observed bulls and dogs), and I suspect human beings (not all of them but some of them) have performed said act since they crawled out of the slime.

Indeed some cultures still use it as a form of contraception and I believe the practice was rife amongst the Roman & Greek emires of yore.

Mind you, I'm bugga'd if I can understand why men want to do that to men! ;)

Pinky the pilot
21st Jan 2003, 08:25
Bugga'd if I can understand what all the fuss is about anyway!:rolleyes:

the wizard of auz
21st Jan 2003, 11:03
Oh Bugga, will you bugga's, bugga off. :D
Hey, good point Ozex, wheres me bloody signature gone?

Pass-A-Frozo
22nd Jan 2003, 07:15
so is "my dogs bugga'd" fine??
:rolleyes: