EasyJet to operate Charter Flights.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

EasyJet have submitted an application with the CAA for a licence to operate Charter flights.
Looks like its going to be, more night flying for you all at Orange.

[ghost-rider]

And your source is ? :rolleyes:

[fadec_primary_channel]

741a beat me to it.
:)

Anybody got any clue what this is all about?

Will Monarch have anything to say about it ex LTN and what about the rest of the charter sector?
There was talk of low cost charter sector but the established charter outfits already offered that plus schedules I thought???

Cheers

:)

[maninblack]

Keeping options open, I assume.

[ghost-rider]

:confused:

Apologies ! I thought this was the usual rumour mongering ! :rolleyes:

As it isn't - I'd have to agree with maninblack.

[fadec_primary_channel]

But why bother as they already operate to lots of the bread and butter charter destinations?

Yes there are more destinations left, but what does the status of the flight ie charter vs schedule afford them? Is this important??

:)

[expedite_climb]

They can bid for lucrative sub charters when a/c go tech in the summer, obviously only on nights when the a/c arent flying, but thats revenue.

Would have thought that this would worry the likes of Titan etc the most.

[ghost-rider]

Great in theory, but we'll need all our own a/c to cover any unserviceabillities in our own fleet.

Don't forget the option we have on the DBA purchase as well.

I can't see us being able to offer a sub-capability to other airlines due to the need of protecting our own operation.

Having said that ... nothing would surprise me in this game !

[expedite_climb]

True, but there must be times when easy don't fly a lot, and if they can try to sub out then it must make money ??

[kriskross]

expedite_climb,

I think that time is December 25th for this year, anyone want a sub-charter then?

[ghost-rider]

expedite...

kriskross sums it up well ! ( although we won't have any available crews on Xmas day ! )

The only other times the a/c are standing around is for the daily engineering checks and maintenance at night !

We often do have a couple of s/by a/c at LTN or LPL normally, but they are there for programme recovery, with full crews at the airport on s/by just in case.

Remember if one flight gets heavily delayed for ATC, tech or other reasons, then the knock-on effect on our schedule can be devastating. This is where the spare a/c can be utilised.

To willingly sub-out our spare a/c would be stupid as we'd be open to all manner of potential disasters to the programme.

... Unless of course you can guarantee that you won't have any ATC delays, no boarding or baggage discrepencies, pax getting lost, medical diverts, fuel uplift snags, ground handling issues, tech problems etc etc etc and the day will run without a hitch !

If we could do that, then I'd know next week's lottery numbers as well !

[LTNman]

With easyjet taking delivery of new aircraft monthly they should have no problems operating charters if they hold back slightly on new scheduled services.

[Departures Beckham]

RYR were doing charters a few summers ago to Palma. From what I remember the flights were all on Sundays, I guess if it worked for them it could work for the guys in orange suits.

[Buster the Bear]

easyHolidays!

Must have something up thier easyOrange sleeve?

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

GO have done Charters in the past. Ferrying Nuns back from the South of France or taking people to cruise ships in Venice from EDI were two of my experiences of this.

WWW

[RAT 5]

If you read threads/posts elsewhere reagrding the crewing/roster problems, it would seems an odds on certainty that to increase a/c utilisation will cause total chaos. Any hicc-up would devastate the network. That would cost a fortune to the company and irritate the crews more than they seem to be. It would a no-brainer.
At a time when ej seem to be undercrewed, and with a/c due to arrive at an ever increasing rate, probably faster tha they can train up to the correct crew ratio, surely the opposite is required, i.e. reduce the schedules to match the assetts available.
Or could it be short term greed, again, ruling the day?

If by going charter they can block book X% of seats at a guaranteed price to a tour operator, but on exisiting flights, that would be a guaranteed source of revenue. How the legal/licencing matter would be sorted out might task the powers that be!

But I would have thought that first they should be sorting out the fundamentals to make ej more attractive to crews for a carreer, not less.

[expedite_climb]

krisskross - I hope not ! I dont work for easy but do do charter and Im on standby then ! :rolleyes:

[jetstream7]

So...

easyJet takeover Go, who already (may) have a charter programme...

Do easyJet then have to apply to operate these flights?

Just wondering...

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

I think - don't know - that the kind of Charters GO have done have not been the short notice ad hoc type. More they have been planned well in advance. Possibly utilising aircraft surplaces that exist between route changes or the introduction of new aircraft to the line.

I don't think its a major part of the overall strategy. Just an ocassional option.

WWW

[maninblack]

As I said, probably just keeping their options open. A similar one a few years ago in the days of Errol Cossey at Air2000 was their application and receipt of a ticket to do scheduled service. I don't think it was ever used but it is a useful tool to have in the box if you want to keep your options open.

Also, remember Air Europe? they did a very cute little scheduled service alongside their charter flights. It makes business sense and let's face it, as much as many of our fellow forum members like to bitch about Stelios and his ilk, we would rather have control of their bank accounts than our own, they are serious revenue generators.

[OLNEY 1 BRAVO]

I think GO also operate some sub charters for Monarch out of Manchester a couple of winters ago.

[Frosty Hoar]

Hopefully Easyjet will start offering subcharter capacity soon, that gives everybody else the opportunity to contract an aircraft from them and then cancel it once the crew have been called out, which is precisely what they used to do to us....:mad: :mad: :mad: :D :D

[dik dastardly]

regards Air2000, I thought they did have the odd scheduled service?
As For Easy, was it not the charter carriers who bailed them out this year by subbing them 757's and alike. Seem to remember JMC featuring there.
With the attitude displayed by some of their cabin crew even when they don't do a service I should think 149 hot meals would be a bridge too far. No IFE either.:D

[Buster the Bear]

easy said it expects to announce in Mar03 whether it will exercise its option to buy Deutsche BA. easyJet also announced substantial progress on the integration of Go Fly and said expects the combination to be completed significantly ahead of schedule.
As of today, easyJet and Go are operating under a single UK Air Operators Certificate (AOC) as approved by the UK Civil Aviation Authority, which means they are now acting as a single airline with a common fleet, operating practices, recruitment processes and CAA-approved postholders.

[UFGBOY]

be quite interesting doing 149 hot meals out of the one oven fitted !!

Still, clearing all the 149 trays into orange gash bags will be 'easy'.......;)

[Goforfun]

WWW is right.

Go did a few charters to Venice From EDI/ Football tours etc... mainly at weekends it seemed. A nice little earner during the weekend slack.

My guess also is easyJet are looking to bring their AOC into a more flexible marketplace. I can't see them doing major charter work!

[dwlpl]

The CAA gave easyJet the license to fly charters as of 30th Dec 2002.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

I wondered if any body would have spotted that.
Well done dwlpl.
Airlines watch out, it seems everything is going Orange.