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tony draper
7th Nov 2002, 08:24
Latest suggestion from the luvies,
Burglars should asked to meet the the folks they have plundered, apologise ,then allowed walk free.
Oh yes indeed.
:mad:

Anthony Carn
7th Nov 2002, 08:39
I would even extend that to giving victims the burgulars home address...........so that they can keep in touch, if you get my drift. :)

luvly jubbly
7th Nov 2002, 08:41
Yeah drapes. Saw that on tv. Chief Constable from Thames Valley is all in favour of it.

Cant imagine the Geordie charvas down my way doin that!
Some people I know got stabbed in Consett the other night. The 2 arrested for it are out on bail. Obviously no danger to society even though they carry knives to go out clubbing!!

"Sorry I stabbed you, mister"

Even better one in this morning's news. - Sunderland burglar convicted of breaking into his girlfriend's flat!! Some people are sooooo stoopid

GustyOrange
7th Nov 2002, 09:49
That's a good suggestion AC.

I would improve it by making the burglars home addresses available to everyone, perhaps by publishing them in the local rag.

Gusty

whiz
7th Nov 2002, 10:06
Do you think the time will ever return when money isnt king ?
Of course it makes it even easier and cheaper to avoid a trial and imprisoning these scum bags, but wheres the justice in that ? These senior bods want to spend some time on the street again rather than sitting in an office managing a budget. :mad:

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Tony, I was feeling far too mellow this morning. :mad:

Grainger
7th Nov 2002, 10:25
An excellent plan, provided we make one small modification...

Burglars should asked to meet the the folks they have plundered - and have the sh*t kicked out of them.

Smoketoomuch
7th Nov 2002, 11:02
Mr Drapes, you omitted to mention that the victims of these lowlifes [sorry, 'misguided individuals'] are to be sent on anger management courses.
I mean... imagine getting angry because you've been mugged. :rolleyes:

poodleair
7th Nov 2002, 11:11
Excellent idea of making criminals' home addresses available for all to see. Let's kick off with this one, which belongs to someone who along with his colleagues was responsible for the murder and wounding of a very significant number of women and children ...

I have removed my home address from this post by Neil Robertson who is trying to deflect attention from his own criminal activity which looks very much like paedophile activity. This is typical from someon who has been exposed as a pervert who predates on children.

Low-Pass
7th Nov 2002, 11:41
"Arrr yes, get everyone together with their torches and we'll decend upon the heretic scum as soon as night falls and banish them from our streets"

I believe the word you're looking for is V I G I L A N T E

Great to have a bit of mob rule :rolleyes:

Poodleair, I suppose you'll be providing all your details, being that you are such a courageous individual, as well as the evidence against this person that you are condemning. Also, are you going to give us all a complete history as to all of your dealing and how you've never hit anyone in your live or skimmed a little off the top in your favour?

Not defending the crims and the idea seems daft to me but the horse you're riding there does seem to be pretty high.

Tonic Please
7th Nov 2002, 11:42
I have recently been a victim of crime. Nothing on the scale of assault, but my 350 pound bike was stolen from Byfleet and New Haw station on Monday afternoon. I left it there to go to work, at about 2:15, then upon my return at the same station, it was gone. My arrival time was 7:30. Short space of time though.

There are no CCTV cameras. I reported it stolen and gave details etc, so I hope it comes about. It was locked to the metal bike racks bolted into the ground and had those big steel wire (i think) padlocks...and I had the key with me all day. Shame I had to walk home in the rain that day :(

Thinking of it, if anyone is in my area (woking, weybridge, west byflet, addlestone, chertsey etc), then perhaps you could have a little brief look on your travels...

Its shiny red and silver, with front disc-brake on the left of the front wheel. This is a black mechanism. It also has suspension in the middle under the seat and twin suspension on the front. The tyres were black with a red rim around it on the inside. The exact type if it makes a difference is "APO ABYSS 20 inch"...

To be on the recieving end of crime is, in my case, very frustrating and the punishment for my thief should be the chair....(plugged in of course) :D

Smooth skies,
Dan.

solotk
7th Nov 2002, 12:03
Poodleair didn't post that, which should be really obvious to all and sundry.

Nice move Neil, trying to implicate one of your more vociferous critics.

Anthony Carn
7th Nov 2002, 12:39
Vigilantism tends to occur in societies bereft of effective law enforcement, e.g. the UK if the "luvvies" keep getting their way ! :mad:

Rugz
7th Nov 2002, 13:25
Don't forget that they want to allow these criminals to pay compensation to the victim either in cash (week by week probably) or by doing work for you.

Let me think about this....

The guy broke into my house and nicked a load of stuff. Do I really want to have him back in my house doing oddjobs or gardening etc. I think NOT!

It's all going mad if you ask me.

DuckDogers
7th Nov 2002, 13:32
Hows about they return whatever it was they stole and/or have to purchase the said items themselves and return them to you?

Or how about we jus put the little s**ts in a floating jail off the coast where nobody needs to worry about them?

The time is fast approaching when Ducky will soon become a permanant resident downunder!!!!!!!

Whats next? Invite Illegal immigrants round for a cup of tea so they too can steal things..................

:mad: :mad: :mad:

tony draper
7th Nov 2002, 13:32
Think I will stick to me origonal plan, cut 16 inches off one of me Purdeys, anybody comes into Draper towers gets a 12 gauge enema, and Drapes will take a chance on a jury. ;)

PilotsPal
7th Nov 2002, 14:39
tony

Do you have to be such a bleeding heart liberal? I rather fancied trimming their sticky little fingers with my best pair of secateurs. Lovely smooth action they have.

Windy Militant
7th Nov 2002, 15:25
Mr Draper,
I cannot believe that you would contemplate such a criminal act!:eek:
How could you even think about desecrating such a fine weapon shame on you! Get one of those cheap Russian jobs instead ;)

Things are at a pretty low ebb when young people will mug a granny for her fish supper, or as in a case in Bristol recently an elderly woman died from injuries she received during a mugging. The thieves got away with 5.
After years of government that didn't give a damn about the general populace, and the media constantly driving into people that unless you have money you're worthless. With the state of the education system, the total annhilation of our manufacturing base there are an awful lot of people who after failing to win the lottery once again, think that the only way to get any respect is to steal it, so they do. What we need to do is find a way to bring some pride back into peoples lives, don't ask me how but I think the sooner the better. :(

jonathang
7th Nov 2002, 19:05
Tony I think they should get 10 years.

Firm and harsh.

Well they knew what they were doing.

Huck
7th Nov 2002, 20:28
Drapes - the phrase 'round here is, "I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six...."

Flash2001
7th Nov 2002, 21:58
Hey Drapes, here's one for you!

The city of Vancouver is going to provide "Safe sites", clean needles etc. for those who wish to inject heroin, cocaine and whatever. What do you bet that smoking (Tobacco) will be prohibited though?

pigboat
7th Nov 2002, 23:54
Flash, how about that cnut of a judge in Edmonton that ruled it was ok for a prisoner to carry a concealed weapon, as long as it was for self defense? :mad:

Training Risky
8th Nov 2002, 00:07
Windy Militant

I think the answer is staring us all in the face.

NATIONAL SERVICE. And before they are old enough for it, say 18 years old for example, compulsory membership of scouts/Navy/Army/RAF cadets while at school!

University students need not miss out on all the fun. Compulsory membership of mil orgs (not flying clubs like the UAS). Then making up the time after they graduate.

Now who disagrees with this?

Slasher
8th Nov 2002, 03:48
Sounds like another great reason to move to the UK! :D

Drapes can I offer my humblest and most sincere apologys NOW when I go to your house and rob it next year? I admit Im so sorry for what Ill do and that Ill seek treatment for my misguided ways after I hock the stash.

tony draper
8th Nov 2002, 07:40
Well now Mr Slasher, we don't have to be rocket scientists to figure out a suitable punishment for yourself.
Pilot Pal with her secateurs, SNIP!!,wouldn't be yer finger hitting the deck. :eek: ;)

Windy Militant
8th Nov 2002, 07:57
Training Risky
National service is not the answer. In the late fifties and early sixties there was an upsurge in crimes using firearms and bank jobs using explosives. All you do with National service is to teach the little scrotes how to use weapons properly and to organize themselves. At least at the moment they're a disorganised rabble who can't shoot straight. Hmm maybe there is an answer, send them on the same management courses that they sent the people from Railtrack, the NHS and The Education department. That should fix them, after that they couldn't organise a panic in a sinking submarine, so we'd all be safe in our beds!:rolleyes:

Tonic Please
8th Nov 2002, 07:57
I am interested to know that National Service should be undertaken by criminals, or by young people..."....university students need to be left out of the fun...." in your opinion?

I am 18, and will NOT do national service. Firstly, I do not agree that people (assuming the non-criminals here), should be forced to go into battle or whatever, and/or undergo strenuous activity for the sake of satisfying elders to show that they now have discipline and can take orders and bla bla bla instead of doing crime. I have not heard of any 16 year old rapists on the loose!

I have just had a very good up-bringing and cannot really do one thing wrong. I do not smoke (nor did I when I was underage), and to be honest, I did't really get drunk underage. (I have just turned 18 :D ). Drugs you can forget about, I dont do any of that rubbish. I work hard for what I want and will not steal to "experience the adrenaline" as some of these moranic imbosils say they do it for, or to get the money I need. I will be proud of myself once I have accomplished my goal of a professional pilot.

Saying all that...I am not one to go into military hands to give me discipline.

Now, for the criminals. They need boot camp. And why put them in National Service. All they'll do is steal the guns :rolleyes: I do not know what punishments can be inforced on people that ruin peoples live through burglary etc... But I think you are saying National Service "PERHAPS" because you had to do it (?????) and because you did it, all other youngsters have to.

I agree that lots of younger people need a kick up the ass, but then what about the people like me who know what they want and work bloody hard for it? :rolleyes: Just curious :)

Smooth skies...

Dan :D

WX Man
8th Nov 2002, 08:39
If anyone should do any apologising, it's the police...

Late '99: my room at Uni got broken in to, and they took a HECK of a lot of stuff, including my car (which was parked next to a CCTV camera. And I'm not joking, it was NEXT TO the damn thing). They took the keys, went up to it, opened it, started it and drove off in it with all my stuff. They then went to a few local garages, cashpoints etc etc, exposing themselves to countless other CCTV cameras.

The police did the absolute square root of Foxtrot Alpha!

Grainger
8th Nov 2002, 08:58
Now WX, if you will have a nice car you can expect someone to want it, can't you Sir ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

As for National Service, I'm sure the forces don't want the little scrotes any more than the rest of us. The Army should not be used as a babysitting service or a dumping ground for trash.

bounty
8th Nov 2002, 09:03
http://www.thinkofthechildren.co.uk/

:)

tony draper
8th Nov 2002, 09:07
Execute the little fecks, and if they re-offend execute them again. ;)

Gainesy
8th Nov 2002, 09:20
Bleeding heart liberal... :rolleyes:

PilotsPal
8th Nov 2002, 09:32
tony

That's a terrible suggestion! The girls at Firecats in PatPong would never forgive me.

Blacksheep
8th Nov 2002, 11:33
When I were in't mob we had a notorious ne'er-do-well called Angry Frank M-----n. He was eventually sent to Her Majesty's Military Lock-up at Colchester for 56 days. Upon his return "Angry-Frank" had become "Extremely Mild Mannered and Polite Frank" - so much so that it took several months before he stopped leaping to his feet and addressing me as "Staff!"every time I walked into his barrack room to try and scrounge a cigarette. I don't know what they did to him in Colchester but if they still have the handbook it could be pretty useful. None of that 'short sharp shock' rubbish - they should use the full psychological warfare on these jerks, like they did on our Frank...

*************************
Through difficulty to the cinema

Flash2001
8th Nov 2002, 13:24
I seem to remember that when people came back from the SDB their sole ambition was never to return.

I can also recall that when one such barrack block thief, who was to be discharged after his sentence, was returned under escort to "Pick up his kit" the escort went somewhere else for a few minutes.

Ugly!

Training Risky
8th Nov 2002, 15:03
My post said "Uni students need NOT be left out of the fun!"...
I'm not a Uni student, and I did not do national service. But I don't think people's careers should be affected by missing Uni (unless they are doing something pointless like Media Studies).
Something to make people better citizens is in order. But my original point was that all young people, including Uni students, should have some sort of training to eradicate anti-social behavior.
Maybe it could start with a decent Primary education, and onwards!

Dan, it sounds like you didn't get up to any high jinx at all while doing A-levels! Did you have any teenage years?...

Tonic Please
8th Nov 2002, 16:30
No I did not :(