IL62 crash at Bishkek

[Yak97]

Rumours of IL62 crash at Bishkek this morning.

Aircraft, positioning flight from Moscow to uplift cargo, crashed on approach to Bishkek - Manas airport today, only crew on board.

No further news at moment

Condolences to all involved

[Call Established]

Doe's anyone have any more info on this please ?

[5 APU's captain]

Landing was peformed by the President of this company(ex-Il-62 captain) with overshoot about 900 meters.

[Sensible Garage]

A Russian cargo plane crashed early Wednesday morning while landing at Manas International Airport, outside the Kyrgyz capital Bishkek, injuring 11 people on board, a local official said. The jet, an Ilyushin-62, burst into flames but all the 11 people, including nine crew members, managed to escape, according to local media reports reaching here.

According to the latest information, the plane that crashed in the Bishkek airport in the capital of Kyrgyzstan was an Il-62 flying from Moscow to Bishkek. A spokesman for the Russian Emergencies Ministry reported to RosBusinessConsulting that as the plane landed it lost control, ran into a fence and caught fire. There were seven crew members on board the aircraft. None of them was injured. US fire fighters from the Gansi military air-base, located close to the airport, helped to extinguish the fire. According to preliminary information, the plane is beyond repair.

[Biggles Flies Undone]

It’s IL-62 reg no RA 86452 – operated by ‘Tretyakov Air Transport Company'. Reuters have a picture of the crash scene and the only recognisable bit is the tail – quite amazing that the crew survived and it must have been a hell of a ride!!

[Sensible Garage]

The number is reported as 452, and it belonged to "Tretyakovo". According to one source, 7 crew, but no passengers were aboard (all unhurt). According to another source, there were 9 crew, and two of them were injured. The Il-62 took off at DME at 23.08 hrs Moscow time on 22 October and overshoot the runway at 02.57 hrs Moscow time. It caught fire then.

BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan (AP) -- At least eight people have been injured when a Russian cargo jet has crashed while landing.

The crash happened on Wednesday morning at Manas International Airport outside the Kyrgyz capital Bishkek, an official said.

All on the plane were injured, some of them with serious burns, said a duty officer at the Kyrgyz Emergency Situations Ministry.

The jet, an Ilyushin-62, hit a concrete barrier after touching down on the ground, the official said.

One of its wheels broke off, the aircraft flipped onto its side and caught fire.

The plane, owned by the Russian air company Tretyakov, is believed to be used to transported equipment for coalition troops based at the Manas airport.

The troops are participating in the anti-terror operations in neighbouring Afghanistan.

[lomapaseo]

I've always had problems visualizing 9 or more crew members on a russian freighter operation. Could somebody help me out with what the duties of such crew members would be to the flight.

[JR_wilco]

check: http://www.jacdec.de/news.htm for further

the aircraft in question (RA-86452)
http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/5/6/2/247265.jpg

[akerosid]

Not all of the crew on this flight would have been flight crewmembers; there could have been loadmasters, engineers, off duty cabin crew (there being no pax). The standard IL6 crew, I believe, is a captain, FO, FE and Navigator and on international flights, they may also have a radio operator/cockpit translator.

I think one of the reasons for this historically was the policy of full employment; why employ just two pilots (and an FE), if you could squeeze in a few more, but the lack of the technology (and the cockpit of an IL62 needs to be seen to be believed) would also have been a factor.

[ATC Watcher]

Bad news. Been to FRU last year. very large airport, all area around very flat ( the only flat bit around the country ) and a very long runway. Bad luck possibly.
As to the numbers of crew on Russian aircraft , this was also part of the political design at the time to prevent defection of the crew to the west. With more people involved it becomes more difficult for one pilot alone to change course unoticed. In the Tu 134 for instance, the Navigator ( on the nose ) had the nav dials but not the frequency box. The pilot had an artificial horizon but no navigation dials. etc...
But today the latest IL62 M are made for 3 flying crew. The rest are mechanics and load masters sitting in the back.