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4th Oct 2002, 06:11
GRIFFITH UNIVERSITY RESEARCH PROJECT
TOPIC
MINIMUM PILOT REQUIREMENTS.
Dear Fellow Aviator,
I am currently studying a Bachelor of Aviation at Griffith University; in the 3rd year of this degree we are asked to undertake a research project on a topic of interest that is related to aviation. My chosen topic relates to the minimum pilot requirements and industry requirements with regard to, the current CAOs 82.1 & 3 and proposed rule makings (NPRMs) 121B.960 of CASA. Could you please assist me with my research, by taking a few moments of your time to answer a short questionnaire in relation to this topic?
Objective
Is to survey various members of the industry in the form of, Operators, Chief Pilots, Training organisations, Pilots, Insurance Companies, Student Pilots and members of aviation related organisations, to obtain feedback and comments on the possibilities of a shortage of experienced pilots to fulfil positions. Also to open up to discussion the possibility of developing a syllabus of training directly orientated to the Public Air Transport industry, which may make it possible for some exemptions or lower minimum requirements due to the more advanced training.
Background
Under CASAs new proposed CASR 121B, Charter Operations and Regular Public Transport will be encompassed under new regulations for Air Transport Operations. CAO 82.1 and 82.3 will be replaced by CASR 121B.960. This will greatly impact charter operations and specifically single pilot multi-engine < 5700kg with maximum passenger capacity of nine.
New pilots are having great difficult in obtaining positions, that allow them to develop the experience required to enter Regional and National air carriers, quite often the minimum experience requirements of small charter operators are far in excess of the minimums required under CAO 82.1 (charter) and 82.3 (RPT).
CAO 82.1 Para 4 (Charter Operations)
Obligation in Relation to Flight Crew Requirements
4.1
Each operator who holds a certificate authorising charter operations must ensure that a person does not act as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes not exceeding 5700kg MTOW that are engaged in charter operations unless that pilot satisfies the following requirements:
(a) in the case of VFR operations, the pilot must, unless he or she has at least 100 hours experience as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes, have, in addition to endorsement time, at least 5 hours experience as pilot in command of the aircraft type; and
(b) in the case of IFR operations, the pilot must have at least 10 hours experience as pilot in command of the aircraft type which may include flight time accrued as pilot acting in command under supervision.
(c)
CAO 82.3 Appendix 4 (RPT Operations <5700kg)
Qualifications of Pilots in Command
CategorySingle pilot aeroplanes- normal category QualificationsCommercial pilot (aeroplanes) licence or air transport pilot (aeroplane) licence.Command (multi-engine aeroplane) instrument rating. Minimum aeronautical experience700hours total experience as a pilot that include:150hours as a pilot-in-command (or acting as pilot-in-command) on multi-engine aeroplanes under the instrument flight rules; and 10 hours as pilot-in-command (or acting as pilot-in-command) on the aeroplane type; and 50 hours experience as pilot on night operations.
CASR 121B.960 Pilots in command and second pilots Instrument rating, licence and experience requirements
(a) An operator must ensure that a CPL holder does not act as pilot in command of an aeroplane unless the aeroplane is certificated for single pilot operations and, if one or more passengers are carried, the pilot has the following minimum experience and qualifications:
Type of Operation IFR or night under 121B.201(b)(1) AeroplaneMulti-engine aeroplanes Minimum Pilot in Command Experience Requirements700 hrs (500 hrs in the case of and aeroplane having an MAPSC not exceeding 9) as a pilot of registered or recognised aeroplanes, including 300 hrs (150 hrs in the case of an aeroplane having MAPSC not exceeding 9) as PIC under IFR which includes 40 hrs multi-engine of which 20 hrs must be on the type or class of aeroplane concerned, all of which may be ICUS, plus a valid, appropriate I/R plus, if operating at night, 50 hrs as a pilot at night.
Concerns
As it stands at the present, not withstanding insurance and company requirements, a recently qualified commercial pilot with 10 hrs on type and an instrument rating, is able to get a position that enables him to use his qualifications. Under the proposed 121B.960 this will not be possible. Currently aviation has a reasonable spread of pilots capable of filling most positions with the exception of some Grade 1 instructors and CFIs, however it may be possible after the implementation of these new regulations that most junior pilots will not be able to find positions that will allow them to improve their skills. This has the potential of broadening the gap between newly qualified pilots and positions with companies under the new Air Transport Operations rule.
Please free to add comment. Anonymity is assured and I request that you only include your position within aviation to the nearest category.
Thank you for your time in anticipation,
Griffith University Questionnaire.
Do you feel under the current CPL training syllabus that there is a lack of industry specific knowledge and experience passed on to the prospective student?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Under the proposed new CASRs, is there the possibility of pilots being unable to gain the necessary experience to evolve in the aviation system?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Universities have been offering degrees in aviation for some time now, Is a pilot with a University Degree better prepared to meet the industry requirement?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Many charter operators have for a long time been the breeding ground of airline pilots, allowing them to obtain industry experience, the minimums for these operations now exceed the minimum requirements for airlines. In your opinion are these requirements set for the purpose of:
To meet the requirements of contract customers?
To alleviate the continuous applications of pilots looking for employment?
To meet insurance requirements?
Insurance companies offer a variety of rates dependant on pilot experience, is this having a major impact on the decision of operators not to hire pilots with low hours?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Could these companies reconsider their requirements relative to an advanced type of training received?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Which of the models of training and experience do you think meets the future requirements of industry?
A-Current CPL SyllabusSelf funded ratings and endorsements(including M/E CIR and ATPL)Non remuneration for ICUS time B-Modified Syllabus including CIR, ATPL with and extension of hours required,Self sponsored positions within organisations to accrue the necessary requirements C-A specifically structured syllabus that provides;Multi-engine NVFR150 hours of IF90 hours multi-engine50 hours PIC multi-engine IF250 hours plus total timeUniversity Degree (incl. ATPL and CRM)
A B C
Consider the proposal of a Air Transport Operations syllabus of training for Commercial students, that allows them to conduct operations as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes with a maximum seating capacity of 9, under IFR by day in conditions of VMC at the departure and destination aerodromes. An example of such a syllabus:
45hrs PPL style of training
10hrs NVFR
10hrs Multi-engine endorsement
5hrs Multi-engine NVFR Dual
5hrs Multi-engine NVFR solo
20hrs Multi-engine IFR (plus 20hrs simulator)
20hrs VFR cross country
70hrs IFR cross country
50hrs Multi-engine IFR cross-country solo
Please rate this proposal on a scale of 1 5;
1 Excellent 2 3 4 5
Please indicate your position within aviation;
Operator/Chief Pilot
Insurance organisation
Training organisation
Commercial Pilot
Student Pilot
Other
If you have any further comments regarding the topic please feel free to express your opinion.
Comment: .
Pls cut and paste the questionaire and email to [email protected]
TOPIC
MINIMUM PILOT REQUIREMENTS.
Dear Fellow Aviator,
I am currently studying a Bachelor of Aviation at Griffith University; in the 3rd year of this degree we are asked to undertake a research project on a topic of interest that is related to aviation. My chosen topic relates to the minimum pilot requirements and industry requirements with regard to, the current CAOs 82.1 & 3 and proposed rule makings (NPRMs) 121B.960 of CASA. Could you please assist me with my research, by taking a few moments of your time to answer a short questionnaire in relation to this topic?
Objective
Is to survey various members of the industry in the form of, Operators, Chief Pilots, Training organisations, Pilots, Insurance Companies, Student Pilots and members of aviation related organisations, to obtain feedback and comments on the possibilities of a shortage of experienced pilots to fulfil positions. Also to open up to discussion the possibility of developing a syllabus of training directly orientated to the Public Air Transport industry, which may make it possible for some exemptions or lower minimum requirements due to the more advanced training.
Background
Under CASAs new proposed CASR 121B, Charter Operations and Regular Public Transport will be encompassed under new regulations for Air Transport Operations. CAO 82.1 and 82.3 will be replaced by CASR 121B.960. This will greatly impact charter operations and specifically single pilot multi-engine < 5700kg with maximum passenger capacity of nine.
New pilots are having great difficult in obtaining positions, that allow them to develop the experience required to enter Regional and National air carriers, quite often the minimum experience requirements of small charter operators are far in excess of the minimums required under CAO 82.1 (charter) and 82.3 (RPT).
CAO 82.1 Para 4 (Charter Operations)
Obligation in Relation to Flight Crew Requirements
4.1
Each operator who holds a certificate authorising charter operations must ensure that a person does not act as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes not exceeding 5700kg MTOW that are engaged in charter operations unless that pilot satisfies the following requirements:
(a) in the case of VFR operations, the pilot must, unless he or she has at least 100 hours experience as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes, have, in addition to endorsement time, at least 5 hours experience as pilot in command of the aircraft type; and
(b) in the case of IFR operations, the pilot must have at least 10 hours experience as pilot in command of the aircraft type which may include flight time accrued as pilot acting in command under supervision.
(c)
CAO 82.3 Appendix 4 (RPT Operations <5700kg)
Qualifications of Pilots in Command
CategorySingle pilot aeroplanes- normal category QualificationsCommercial pilot (aeroplanes) licence or air transport pilot (aeroplane) licence.Command (multi-engine aeroplane) instrument rating. Minimum aeronautical experience700hours total experience as a pilot that include:150hours as a pilot-in-command (or acting as pilot-in-command) on multi-engine aeroplanes under the instrument flight rules; and 10 hours as pilot-in-command (or acting as pilot-in-command) on the aeroplane type; and 50 hours experience as pilot on night operations.
CASR 121B.960 Pilots in command and second pilots Instrument rating, licence and experience requirements
(a) An operator must ensure that a CPL holder does not act as pilot in command of an aeroplane unless the aeroplane is certificated for single pilot operations and, if one or more passengers are carried, the pilot has the following minimum experience and qualifications:
Type of Operation IFR or night under 121B.201(b)(1) AeroplaneMulti-engine aeroplanes Minimum Pilot in Command Experience Requirements700 hrs (500 hrs in the case of and aeroplane having an MAPSC not exceeding 9) as a pilot of registered or recognised aeroplanes, including 300 hrs (150 hrs in the case of an aeroplane having MAPSC not exceeding 9) as PIC under IFR which includes 40 hrs multi-engine of which 20 hrs must be on the type or class of aeroplane concerned, all of which may be ICUS, plus a valid, appropriate I/R plus, if operating at night, 50 hrs as a pilot at night.
Concerns
As it stands at the present, not withstanding insurance and company requirements, a recently qualified commercial pilot with 10 hrs on type and an instrument rating, is able to get a position that enables him to use his qualifications. Under the proposed 121B.960 this will not be possible. Currently aviation has a reasonable spread of pilots capable of filling most positions with the exception of some Grade 1 instructors and CFIs, however it may be possible after the implementation of these new regulations that most junior pilots will not be able to find positions that will allow them to improve their skills. This has the potential of broadening the gap between newly qualified pilots and positions with companies under the new Air Transport Operations rule.
Please free to add comment. Anonymity is assured and I request that you only include your position within aviation to the nearest category.
Thank you for your time in anticipation,
Griffith University Questionnaire.
Do you feel under the current CPL training syllabus that there is a lack of industry specific knowledge and experience passed on to the prospective student?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Under the proposed new CASRs, is there the possibility of pilots being unable to gain the necessary experience to evolve in the aviation system?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Universities have been offering degrees in aviation for some time now, Is a pilot with a University Degree better prepared to meet the industry requirement?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Many charter operators have for a long time been the breeding ground of airline pilots, allowing them to obtain industry experience, the minimums for these operations now exceed the minimum requirements for airlines. In your opinion are these requirements set for the purpose of:
To meet the requirements of contract customers?
To alleviate the continuous applications of pilots looking for employment?
To meet insurance requirements?
Insurance companies offer a variety of rates dependant on pilot experience, is this having a major impact on the decision of operators not to hire pilots with low hours?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Could these companies reconsider their requirements relative to an advanced type of training received?
Agree Disagree
Comment
Which of the models of training and experience do you think meets the future requirements of industry?
A-Current CPL SyllabusSelf funded ratings and endorsements(including M/E CIR and ATPL)Non remuneration for ICUS time B-Modified Syllabus including CIR, ATPL with and extension of hours required,Self sponsored positions within organisations to accrue the necessary requirements C-A specifically structured syllabus that provides;Multi-engine NVFR150 hours of IF90 hours multi-engine50 hours PIC multi-engine IF250 hours plus total timeUniversity Degree (incl. ATPL and CRM)
A B C
Consider the proposal of a Air Transport Operations syllabus of training for Commercial students, that allows them to conduct operations as pilot in command of multi-engine aeroplanes with a maximum seating capacity of 9, under IFR by day in conditions of VMC at the departure and destination aerodromes. An example of such a syllabus:
45hrs PPL style of training
10hrs NVFR
10hrs Multi-engine endorsement
5hrs Multi-engine NVFR Dual
5hrs Multi-engine NVFR solo
20hrs Multi-engine IFR (plus 20hrs simulator)
20hrs VFR cross country
70hrs IFR cross country
50hrs Multi-engine IFR cross-country solo
Please rate this proposal on a scale of 1 5;
1 Excellent 2 3 4 5
Please indicate your position within aviation;
Operator/Chief Pilot
Insurance organisation
Training organisation
Commercial Pilot
Student Pilot
Other
If you have any further comments regarding the topic please feel free to express your opinion.
Comment: .
Pls cut and paste the questionaire and email to [email protected]