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CargoOne
30th Sep 2002, 19:36
Could you help to find out MTOW/MLW/MZFW and max gross payload figures for converted 757s at DHL fleet? Thanks

Flip Flop Flyer
1st Oct 2002, 16:36
Yes I can. Why would I want to do it?

CargoOne
2nd Oct 2002, 08:51
Just want to compare actual figures with Boeing ads for 757 convertion, and to see what are the weights DHL opted for (there are several weight options offered). Actually doing a compartion report for 757 converted/757F factory built/Tu204-120C and Tu214C :)

cargosales
2nd Oct 2002, 13:52
CargoOne:

Suggest you get hold of a copy of Freighters. Published by a company called Tabmag in the UK. Not cheap but a goldmine of information.

Send me a message if you need want more info.

CS

CargoOne
3rd Oct 2002, 15:05
I have a copy of Freighters. Facts there sometimes are true, sometimes bulls**t. And too many "various options offered". That's why it is always better to check what are the specs of real aircraft ;)

FEBA
4th Oct 2002, 15:14
Sapco. How do you manage to get that much freight on the main deck then???

expedite_climb
4th Oct 2002, 15:33
FEBA,

I dont really know anything about freighters, but with 235 seats and a lot of air to move in we take about 18 tonnes of pax.

If the flight is EMA - BRU then there wont be much gas on board !:D

deing
6th Oct 2002, 17:34
MTOW 92987 (British ones) but 99791 for the Belgian ones
DOW average 54500kg
MZFW 83497
MLW 89992
max payload approx 28800kg for all but the Belgian ones can take it on much longer sectors

Rgds,
deing

myrddin
8th Oct 2002, 20:36
Such language not wanted here

Greek God
14th Oct 2002, 08:49
Don't shoot me down in flames but why are the pax variants MTOW higher ie 108860 or 113400?

expedite_climb
14th Oct 2002, 09:41
Greek God,

Airlines can actually vary the MTOW of their aircraft believe it or not !! AFAIK most 757-2 have a real MTOW of 113.4, but if the airline reduces this then as a result overflight and air nav charges are reduced (you pay depending on MTOW).

My airline has most pax ones at 102 MTOW, but a few heavier ones for the longer routes.

RampTramp
15th Oct 2002, 14:53
Just to add to expedite_climb, there are also some structural limitation depending of main gear, fuze
pins etc. Add to that the usual Boeing arm & both leg for a paper certification at the higher weight
& it all get very complicated.
Boeing will quote 4 separate MTOWs (all lbs) 205k, 220k,240k & 250k depending on the previously
mentioned structures.
Confused yet???

JW411
15th Oct 2002, 20:21
The huge advantage of the B757 over the Tu-204 is that the former only needs 2 crew in the flight deck whilst the latter seems to need 6 -7 (believe me).

On the other hand, it is probably cheaper to set up a Gulag than to pay for 2 decent hotel rooms.

Flagging-out STINKS!

CargoOne
17th Oct 2002, 09:43
JW411,
you are right that tu204c is flying with 6-7 crew, but you haven't catch the point... tu204c has a flight deck crew of 3 (capt/fo/fe), others are loadmaster and technicians, because there is no line maintenance facilities for tu204 at the TNT stations... if you want to bring 747-400F to dark Africa for operations, you will also need a crew of 10 to make a line maintenace there...