View Full Version : Have we reached saturation point ?
Lost_luggage34
20th Sep 2002, 10:51
There is more talk around regarding a fourth London airport. But is it a feasible option wrt ATC capacity ?
Most of us are well aware of the ATC staffing difficulties. But bottom line, could this option be accomodated into an already crowded airspace ?
Say for example, you had an open chequebook, would the technology support it ? Not talking about bodies at screens, - that's another issue well covered here. I am talking about the actual hardware, systems and general infrastructure.
zkdli
20th Sep 2002, 11:14
simple answer to the question is NO
Lost_luggage34
20th Sep 2002, 11:16
Thought so zkdli
055166k
20th Sep 2002, 20:03
certainly not. It is only a matter of getting some heads round the problem. Some of the existing grandfather rights to the airspace might need changing together with some new bits....that's all.
Ayr_Man
20th Sep 2002, 21:20
Hi - Lost_luggage34
Yes, we have reached saturation point, and it will probably all end in tears.
:(
BEXIL160
20th Sep 2002, 22:52
Saturation point? No, not quite....
Given another runway in the LTMA and STARS (and SIDS) that keep aircraft low (and the extra controlled airspace to support those ops)... and agreement from operators to enter the LONDON FIR below FL200 from continental EUR.... etc etc.
That said...
Chances of more concrete?
More CAS?
Agreement to use low level STARS/SIDS?
More ATCOs..... ????
So, it could be done. Practically, it will not be.
rgds BEX
Scott Voigt
22nd Sep 2002, 04:05
Bex;
Do you think that this layout would help solve your problems <BEG>??? Eat your heart out....
http://www.caesimuflite.com/atcmaps/dfw-sml.gif
regards
BEXIL160
22nd Sep 2002, 05:26
Yup....
But the best bit isn't on the map... a small town (north)West of DFW.... goes by the name of Trophy Club. I hear the people there are REAL NICE folks :) :)
See you
BEX
120.4
22nd Sep 2002, 14:55
Now that is what I call runway redundancy!!
See the thread in "Reporting points" about runways at LL.
Point 4
:)
Scott Voigt
23rd Sep 2002, 05:14
120.4
I wouldn't really call it redundancy since we use ALL of them everyday... Keep them busy from about 0630 until about 2130 everyday, then the pace slacks off...
regards