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warplane.co.uk
8th Sep 2002, 20:29
Hi all,

below are a small selection of low flying pictures taken recently in LFA7 and 17.

All photo's are timed and dated and we may have already snapped you. To find out where we have been or where and when we are going next please feel free to Contact me ([email protected]) . Photos can be supplied in digital or print.


http://www.warplane.co.uk/prunegr4.jpg

http://www.warplane.co.uk/pruneharrier.jpg

http://www.warplane.co.uk/pprunejaguar.jpg

high spirits
8th Sep 2002, 20:40
Low Flying? You're having a laugh!. Thats not low flying... Try LFA 1(A,B,C) or some parts of LFA 2.

rivetjoint
8th Sep 2002, 21:47
Low flying is when you can see UP the skirt of the girl you're trying to dazzle :)

Broken Wings
8th Sep 2002, 22:19
"Low Flying" or not they're still good pickies especially the GR1.

CrabInCab
8th Sep 2002, 22:53
Or LFA 19 High Spirits!

Nice medium level phots though WCU.

X-QUORK
11th Sep 2002, 11:59
I have a nice photo from the early seventies showing a Gnat at v.low level over Kemble....not sure how to post it though ? Makes for great PC wallpaper. Credit goes to the old man who was somewhere nearby at the time.

Tips on posting it would be appreciated.

Tiger_mate
11th Sep 2002, 12:18
Tips on posting it would be appreciated.

You need to put the image on a website and then provide a link to it. If you can put it on a website and then let us know were it can be found, I can advise you on how to then put it on this page.

T_M

maxburner
11th Sep 2002, 17:55
Nice shots!

jimgriff
11th Sep 2002, 18:22
There are some similar (but better) pic at this website

Please: Do NOT print links to other sites that have any commercial content as that one has. Albeit that it didn't work! It is still advertising. Sorry, but that is the policy on PPRuNe

jimgriff
12th Sep 2002, 08:43
Very sorry!!!....Am learning fast

Background Noise
12th Sep 2002, 18:50
Can we have some guidance, or point me to the existing guidance, on what constitutes advertising and/or unacceptable linking. I didn't see the link that has been editted out by PP Pop so don't know what the commercial content was.

Many of us have posted links to commercial sites eg to respond to a 'where can i buy a something-or-other' question. There are lots of product endorsements; PPrune Pop himself has endorsed ntl (so did I). What constitutes advertising?

I haven't found anything definitive in FAQs or on the registration page and I just want to make sure I don't get it wrong.

PPRuNe Pop
12th Sep 2002, 20:00
Fair enough!

The link pointed directly to a site that was advertising their products for sale. We do not allow that. This is because PPRuNe relies on advertising for it's existence, so that you, and everyone else, can enjoy it. Free advertising to anyone is not fair to those who pay.

PPrune Pop himself has endorsed ntl

I assume this to mean that I have posted that in answer to a question concerning an ISP I said that I used NTL. That is true and we do not object to that. It's being done all the time on the Computer Issues forum.

Hope that clears it up for you. If not e-mail me.

jimgriff- ok, no problem.

PPP

jimgriff
13th Sep 2002, 08:15
I linked to a site which sold low flying photos taken in mid wales. Yes the prints were for sale and not free but I just thought that peeps might like to see some real low flying (...mind that sheep...) who knows some of you might recognise the shots..anyway mail me if you want the link...

X-QUORK
13th Sep 2002, 09:37
Thanks Tiger Mate, unfortunately I don't have my own website to post the pic on...anyone able to help please ?

wub
13th Sep 2002, 09:56
X-Q:

try www.pbase.com

X-QUORK
13th Sep 2002, 12:33
Thanks Wub, have used that site and can now show all :

http://www.pbase.com/image/4765859

Hope it's worked !!

B*gger and damnation !! I need help Tiger Mate !!

Oh well, the pic's here: http://www.pbase.com/image/4765859 if you'd like to go and have a look.

DamienB
13th Sep 2002, 12:44
Jebus. I hope the photog was given a decent burial.

Spot 4
13th Sep 2002, 21:01
http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u15/x_quork/large/4765859.Gnat2.jpg

Picture coming :))

rob_frost
13th Sep 2002, 21:04
That pictures been here before, and I seem to remember some people suggesting its a fake. I think it is, because firstly you can see blue edges around the smoke, even right on the ground, where its should be green or brown. Someone hasn't cut it out properly. :)

And the shadows don't add up. The outline on the ground suggests the sun is at about 1 o'clock in the picture, and slightly ahead of the plane, but the shadow for the left ( your left ) intake suggests the sun is somewhere else.

Spot 4
13th Sep 2002, 21:05
For future reference:

Right click on the image you want to portray.

Copy the full address.

When writing your message there is an insert image key (where the bold / italic etc bits are.

A pop up message will ask you for the full address

insert and bobs your uncle.

(I will delete this and the previous post if X-QUORK is able to edit his previous entry succesfully, meanwhile gutsy pilot, barking photographer!!)

Looks real enough to me, and from the days well before todays magical imagery

X-QUORK
16th Sep 2002, 08:31
Spot,

Thanks, I'd already had a go at that earlier but it didn't seem to like it...cheers for posting it on my behalf.

Rob,

I'm not sure if you're just trying to get a bite from me, but for what it's worth....here goes :

1. The photo was scanned from an original photo that my father has owned since his membership of the team in the early 1970s, well before scanners or even household PCs existed.

2. I'd be suprised if this photo's already appeared on the site, are you sure it wasn't something similar ?

3. In my opinion the blue haze around the smoke was caused by light diffraction from the fuel vapour which is sprayed into the hot jet exhaust and produces the white smoke. The same principle explains why the sky is blue, due to sunlight being diffracted by the atmosphere.

4. That's not shadow you're seeing by the left-hand intake - it's a reflection on the highly polished (as you'd expect) fuselage.

I hope you're just pulling my leg Rob, I'd hate to think you were one of those geeky conspiracy theorists.:)

Spot 4
16th Sep 2002, 10:04
X-QUORK

The error that you made was in giving a link to the page that the image is on rather than the image itself. To see what I mean, right click on the image above. highlight properties, and note the image address compared to the one that you provided by way of a link. You were almost there.

FWIW I remember seeing this image used in official RA publicity pamphlets in the early seventies? ... and no self respecting team would use bu11**** photos , therefore I believe the pic to be genuine.

Spot 4
Golf 010

f4aviation
16th Sep 2002, 12:40
My all-time favourite shot - it was used in the tenth anniversary magazine which I still treasure somewhere in the study. I'll see if I can track it down.

Funnily enough it was the discussion at Leuchars just after the F3's final pass over our press party - thanks Simon for the new parting in the hair! I'm still shaking...

f4aviation
16th Sep 2002, 21:42
Ah - found it. A Flight special on the Reds first ten years.

http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/gnat/cover.jpg

Also found this shot in it:

http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/gnat/low.jpg

Pics were by the staff photographer, Tom Hamill. I can only think he's a) very short or b) entirely mad!

teeteringhead
17th Sep 2002, 06:17
Definitely not faked, they REALLY were that low in Gnat/pre-PC/pre-H&S days. Mate of mine who flew with the Reds in Gnat days reckons they pulled up to clear runway lights! His tongue was only slightly in his cheek .......;)

rob_frost
17th Sep 2002, 09:40
Guess they probably are real. It was the blue edges to the smoke that I was suspicious about, but your explanation explains them.

I've defintely seem that or something very similair.

X-QUORK
17th Sep 2002, 11:18
Rob,

Come to think of it, I believe they sprayed diesel into the exhaust to produce the white smoke. Diesel exhaust is white with a subtle blue tinge....this is more likely the reason for the blue edge on the pic.

Cheers for accepting it wasn't faked !:)

Darren999
17th Sep 2002, 12:14
Hi all,
Being only a mere PPL (H) (A) I am in ore and beholden to you chaps, and can only dream about having your job! Putting fires out really isn't the same as flying by the seat of your pants 250' over the grd at 400mph!being very sad I thought the pics at the top of this page are fantastic especially the GR 3. As disccussed above is there I site I can view more of these planes on, perhaps to download as Wall paper etc, I like the sound of the Low Gnat at Kemble. Please excuse my servere saddness, and I do promise to get out more. Also is there a school I could go to that offer flights in these types of jets?, it's not the same at the front of my Bell 47, or PA 28!
Great page people

Darren

Stop the bus and let my brother Jack off

Gainesy
18th Sep 2002, 07:53
:) Confirm pic was by me old mate Tom (c. 5ft 8in), there is another pic around by someone not so bold/barking of Tom taking it; he was actually kneeling and the Gnat was at about 8ft. Can't remember who was flying it and I think perhaps it was taken at Little Rissington, not Kemble.
Manual camera--pro photog--great bloke.

MightyGem
19th Sep 2002, 20:37
Just registered with pbase and posted my first piccie:
http://www.pbase.com/image/4973936

Beware, the Force is out there!
:D :D

spekesoftly
19th Sep 2002, 22:35
Hi MightyGem,

Just tried to view your photo without success - perhaps the problem is my end - but I get 'Forbidden'...... you do not have permission to access 'mightygem blah blah'. Any suggestions please?

P.S. Enjoying the new Eurocopter? ;)

MightyGem
20th Sep 2002, 03:55
Hmm... It appears I have to pay if I want a direct link to the picture. Try this: http://www.pbase.com/image/4973936

MightyGem
20th Sep 2002, 05:01
PS yes indeedee. It's like a baby Lynx(if you know of such things).
:D :D