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covec
8th Sep 2002, 14:14
Beagle

Please could you throw some light on the following?

Situation:

SNCO Aircrew (not FE).

Frozen UK ATPL(A) with Perf A - last exam pass Dec '99.

JAR CPL(A) with current JAR MEIR - both gained June 2000.

350 Total hours.

Question:

How "safe" are my UK ATPL(A) credits providing I keep my IR current each year?

Thanks for your time, Beagle.

Kind regards.

BEagle
8th Sep 2002, 14:46
1. Establish from the CAA whether your CPL(A)/IR is considered to be a 'JAR-FCL CPL(A) with ATPL knowledge'

2. If that is the case, then get them to confirm that, since you have passed the IR(A) within 36 months of the last CPL exam pass, your ATPL knowledge credit will be valid for 7 years from the validity date of the most recent renewal IR entered in your JAR-FCL CPL.

I hope that you get the right answers from them; if indeed you have a CPL-with-ATPL-knowledge credit, the main difficulty for you to obtain a JAR-FCL ATPL(A) is obviously achieving 500 hours multi-pilot time unless you secure an airline job within the next 2 years, I would estimate.

WRITE, don't phone the CAA! In your favour will certainly be the fact that you have a current IR(A).

Please remember that everything I've written is only my interpretation of the PLD's LASORS document - the only real authority is CAA PLD.

covec
8th Sep 2002, 20:11
Thanks, Beagle.

Broken Wings
8th Sep 2002, 22:32
Beagle/covec
The JAA-ATPL requirements produces a bizarre situation for those military pilots who have the hours and an MCC credit. You can't get a JAA-ATPL unless you have a multi-pilot type rating and unless you buy one yourself you can't get one of them until you get a job. At the moment most employers want an ATPL! I have been rejected from the Emirates application database because of this despite 5000 hours (including 4200 jet/2500 multi-pilot).

The JAA hasn't catered for the experienced military pilot whereas the old CAA ATPL did.

Clearly employers will lower requirements if a shortage applies but in the meantime there is this catch 22.