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ORAC
19th Apr 2024, 12:51
https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1781195214696136717?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A

Argentine Defense Minister Luis Petri met with NATO Deputy Secretary General Micrea Geona.

He presented Argentina's letter of intent to become a NATO partner.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x808/image_4921047fec9aae145b84c31c808115dfa2fede3c.png
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Lonewolf_50
19th Apr 2024, 13:33
??? They are in the South Atlantic ... is this something like Partnership for Peace in the 90s?

TWT
19th Apr 2024, 13:41
“It is a great pleasure to welcome Defence Minister Petri to NATO Headquarters,” said Mr Geoană. “Argentina plays an important role in Latin America, and I welcome today’s request to explore becoming a NATO partner. NATO works with a range of countries around the world to promote peace and stability. Closer political and practical cooperation could benefit us both.”

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_224873.htm

ORAC
19th Apr 2024, 13:47
??? They are in the South Atlantic ... is this something like Partnership for Peace in the 90s?


https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49188.htm?

https://en.mercopress.com/2024/04/18/argentina-applies-for-nato-global-partnership
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megan
20th Apr 2024, 02:38
They'll volunteer to take on the responsibilities for defence of the Malvinas? ;)

teeteringhead
20th Apr 2024, 07:53
Or how would Article 5 work if they had another go ………?

Less Hair
20th Apr 2024, 08:25
The upcoming south Atlantic exercises could be aptly named "Aegean Spirit"?

rattman
20th Apr 2024, 08:52
Or how would Article 5 work if they had another go ………?

There are plenty of global partners. Both Afghanistan and Iraq are global partners. Global partners is almost completely valueless and no they cant ivoke article 5

Recc
20th Apr 2024, 10:18
There are plenty of global partners. Both Afghanistan and Iraq are global partners. Global partners is almost completely valueless and no they cant ivoke article 5
And in addition, non European/ N american territory is explicitly not covered by the NATO text so the UK cannot invoke article 5 in the case of an attack on the Falklands.

Mil-26Man
20th Apr 2024, 11:03
And in addition, non European/ N american territory is explicitly not covered by the NATO text so the UK cannot invoke article 5 in the case of an attack on the Falklands.

Not sure something can be "explicitly not covered".

Clearly the UK can't invoke Article 5 over the FI or it would have done so. Out of interst, if the Canary Islands or Reunion were attacked, could Spain and France invoke Article 5? Or Hawaii and the US for that matter?

Recc
20th Apr 2024, 11:22
Not sure something can be "explicitly not covered."

exceptio probat regulam. The fact that the territories and regions covered are so clearly defined in the text is, from a legal perspective, a very clear statement of what is not covered.

rattman
20th Apr 2024, 11:37
And in addition, non European/ N american territory is explicitly not covered by the NATO text so the UK cannot invoke article 5 in the case of an attack on the Falklands.

or the pitcairne islands in the pacific. Like france cant for french polyonesia

Asturias56
21st Apr 2024, 07:31
Now why would anyone want to invade French Polynesia??

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1365x768/3134c579_9e9e_41f7_a135_a640ad0ebb44_medium__e01603e2f26d94a 3f85bc3f3f1a67d430860db17.jpg

Sue Vêtements
21st Apr 2024, 13:03
Hard to tell which is worse - that scruffy beard or that garish blue suit! :cool:


but regarding the picture of French Polynesia - I've often wondered what it must have been like to ive in some grimy mill town in Northern England (or in this case France) several centuries ago and sail to a place like that. It must have been like visiting a different planet

Wetstart Dryrun
21st Apr 2024, 14:16
Will they pay their subs in dollars?

Asturias56
21st Apr 2024, 14:46
Hard to tell which is worse - that scruffy beard or that garish blue suit! :cool:

but regarding the picture of French Polynesia - I've often wondered what it must have been like to ive in some grimy mill town in Northern England (or in this case France) several centuries ago and sail to a place like that. It must have been like visiting a different planet

No wonder the crew of the "Bounty "mutinied....................

Asturias56
21st Apr 2024, 14:46
Will they pay their subs in dollars?


Corned beef probably - or a decent red wine?

megan
22nd Apr 2024, 00:17
Now why would anyone want to invade French Polynesia??Because of this, I doubt the mill town boys minds were centred on matters geological or botany, particularly after months at sea. :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGi9gLxRRJ8

sandiego89
22nd Apr 2024, 18:39
but regarding the picture of French Polynesia - I've often wondered what it must have been like to live in some grimy mill town in Northern England (or in this case France) several centuries ago and sail to a place like that. It must have been like visiting a different planet

The book The Life of Captain James Cook by J.C. Beaglehole provides some great insight on this. Excellent book for anyone interested in Cook and Pacific exploration, but a tough read (long and very detailed). Each of the three voyages had fascinating discoveries. Let's just say that the sailors that found themselves on Tahiti after a year or so at sea were awestruck by the sights and species, especially by the very friendly and innocent women. Cook had to make an effort to not let the crew get too comfortable and on task. As Cook himself found on his third and final voyage, one can outstay their welcome.