E55 Baron flips at Cowra

[Jenna Talia]

Anyone know anything more about this?

Unusual for an aircraft like a Baron to end up like this.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/386515

Local media:Light plane crash at Cowra airport

Emergency services are responding to a light plane crash at the Cowra airport, on the New South Wales central tablelands.

The plane, which was believed to have had two occupants, is suspected to have flipped during take-off at about 2:20pm. Neither occupant was injured.
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/66ad84579579a6cbb1254e1d4a2a30ce5d89264a/30_0_2165_1300/master/2165.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=noneView image in fullscreen Emergency services are responding to a light plane crash at Cowra airport. Photograph: Cara Kemp/Cowra GuardianParamedics treated both patients at the scene, with one taken for treatment by a rescue helicopter and the other transported to the local hospital.

The airport is popular for flight schools and private light aircraft owners, and is located next to the rural town’s SES and RFS emergency centres. Chifley district police attended the scene, along with local fire crews.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has been notified and said it is gathering more information about the incident. Reporters from local media outlets on the scene were told a female passenger in the plane suffered only minor injuries and a male was in severe shock.

[Cherokee04]

Aircraft crashed doing a touch and go or go around but it had just come back from Cowra. Both occupants injured, one badly was airlifted to Orange.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Does that nosewheel look as if its 'sideways' to anybody?

Or is it just the photo angle? Can't see the other wing..... 'assy' power / VMC issue on T/O?

Yeah I know....I'll shaddup & wait........as 'JT' said....'unusual'.

Excellent that both occupants got out.

[KRviator]

Does that nosewheel look as if its 'sideways' to anybody?Certainly is. Up close and personal photo from the Central West Daily (https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/8589413/plane-crash-injures-two-near-orange-nsw-police-investing/) shows it to be not-quite-right.

Why on earth the Fuzz have declared it a crime scene though has me flummoxed...:cool:

EDIT: Doesn't look to be a stall/spin prang, there's bugger all damage to either wingtip, looks more like like they've done a full somersault over the radome.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x630/r0_37_2000_1087_w1200_h630_fmax_15d49b4d3e28f224ed780d52bd53 a7554b353dab.jpg

[Squawk7700]

Wow! that looks way worse up close, I'm not surprised they are badly injured :-(

[megan]

Owned by a Nicola Aimee THOMAS, she has quite a fleet, also 185, 182, two Aerostars, PA-28, PA-30. Where was she when I was seeking a spouse?

[324906]

Another wheels up landing,

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

And 'Pusher Props'.....Wonder how 'that' affects the C of G?

[NicolaT]

Owned by a Nicola Aimee THOMAS, she has quite a fleet, also 185, 182, two Aerostars, PA-28, PA-30. Where was she when I was seeking a spouse?


I was probably busy buying all my planes.

[megan]

Welcome Nicola, to be fair you would have been a child when I was seeking, I have doubts in fact that you may have even been born. :ok: Well done in your accumulation.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Now that the 'dust has settled' - Interesting skid mark....

Windscreen area / nose cone to firewall all but disappeared, both engines 'reversed', the port wing tip shows some impact, yet, with all of this 'sideways' movement, the fin & rudder remains substantially vertical / untouched.
I would have expected it to have borne some of the load during the skid, and be 'badly bent'?

Good one to have gotten out of relatively unscathed.

[SWMBO]

Guess only, botched GA on one engine at around or below a certain critical airspeed?

[43Inches]

All I can offer from that picture is that they somehow lost control (possibly a practice failure on the runway during take-off), maybe close to lift off speed, pushed forward to somehow make it stick to the ground (bad idea), left the hard stuff and the nose wheel has dug in causing the aircraft to flip. Only problem I have with that is the lack of mud on the nosewheel and whether it would be able to take the load of that sequence without breaking off...

[SWMBO]

Only problem I have with that is the lack of mud on the nosewheel and whether it would be able to take the load of that sequence without breaking off...

I am no expert but your observation is what supports my post above. The wheels were pointing up when it found the ground due to a GA gone wrong. I doubt they even touched the runway in the whole sequence. It's rolled over from 50/100/150 or some height that allowed it to be inverted prior to hitting the ground. Maybe it was higher, I do not know for sure. But that is the best explanation for all the evidence so far. Not surprised they were hurt and very surprised it was not way worse.

[bobbelmore]

If you care to read the ATSB, it was loss of control during a missed approach.

[prickly]

I was probably busy buying all my planes.
Obviously Nicola never heard of the old adage, "if it can float, f*** or fly, rent don't buy"

[Capt Fathom]

Obviously Nicola never heard of the old adage, "if it can float, f*** or fly, rent don't buy"

Gee. Haven’t heard that one for a least a week!

[43Inches]

I am no expert but your observation is what supports my post above. The wheels were pointing up when it found the ground due to a GA gone wrong. I doubt they even touched the runway in the whole sequence. It's rolled over from 50/100/150 or some height that allowed it to be inverted prior to hitting the ground. Maybe it was higher, I do not know for sure. But that is the best explanation for all the evidence so far. Not surprised they were hurt and very surprised it was not way worse.

That's why I had thought it unlikely to be a nose down/inverted landing, I couldn't see how they could have survived. But the picture definitely looks that way, with the nose cone taking the brunt of the impact and slide from the look of the grass/sod collected. I hope there is a final report to read, it will be interesting to see exactly what happened here. As pointed out above it's unlikely it was rolling or moving sideways or it would have cartwheeled. Although a sudden, single engine go-round at low altitude can be very dangerous, especially if the dead engine is not secured and windmilling (or idle power), anyone who's done multi engine training in higher powered machines would know.