Middle east flying gigs

[Wanttogofly]

I’m very new to this forum. I’m a US citizen but I’m originally from the middle east and I wanted after I get my CPL from the USA to go back to the middle east(any country) to fly there. What are some low time pilot jobs out there and where can I look at to find them. Thank you for your help’

[Climb150]

I’m very new to this forum. I’m a US citizen but I’m originally from the middle east and I wanted after I get my CPL from the USA to go back to the middle east(any country) to fly there. What are some low time pilot jobs out there and where can I look at to find them. Thank you for your help’

It depends what Middle Eastern country you have a passport for. It it's the UAE or Saudi Arabia they have programs to hire their own citizens when they get a CPL.

[Wanttogofly]

It depends what Middle Eastern country you have a passport for. It it's the UAE or Saudi Arabia they have programs to hire their own citizens when they get a CPL.
I’m Egyptian with a US citizenship and FAA licenses

[rudestuff]

You live in the literally the best place in the world to become a pilot. Get your commercial, instrument and CFI. Instruct until 1500 hours then get a regional jet job for a couple of years. Once you have some big jet time you'll be able to walk into any ME os an expat.

[Wanttogofly]

You live in the literally the best place in the world to become a pilot. Get your commercial, instrument and CFI. Instruct until 1500 hours then get a regional jet job for a couple of years. Once you have some big jet time you'll be able to walk into any ME os an expat.
it’s great right now but it’s looking very bright for the next couple of years

[cruisepower]

I’m very new to this forum. I’m a US citizen but I’m originally from the middle east and I wanted after I get my CPL from the USA to go back to the middle east(any country) to fly there. What are some low time pilot jobs out there and where can I look at to find them. Thank you for your help’

Stay in the US. That's my advise. But if you really wan to fly in middle east then flydubai has a SO program but it comes at a cost.

[VThokie2]

it’s great right now but it’s looking very bright for the next couple of years
You are correct it’s great right now AND it’s looking very bright the next couple you years. I don’t think you appreciate what you’d be leaving in the US. Yes you can get into a larger aircraft faster in the ME yet for that privilege (and because of the low “barrier to entry”) you will consistently earn about 50% less and have 50% less days off and very little job security compared to a U.S. pilot flying smaller equipment. There’s good reason why most of the Americans at EK/QR/EY happily left widebody CA positions to start over back home at the bottom.

Stay in the US for your own sake!

[Speedbird744]

There’s good reason why most of the Americans at EK/QR/EY happily left widebody CA positions to start over back home at the bottom.

Stay in the US for your own sake!


I think one reason why there are so few Americans in the ME is because of them still having to pay income taxes like normal US residents.

[VThokie2]

I think one reason why there are so few Americans in the ME is because of them still having to pay income taxes like normal US residents.

Well that’s incorrect!

They are exempt from tax on the first $120,000 of their Foreign Earned Income. The reason they all left (and stopped coming to) the ME is because they can easily make $200,000+ as a LCC FO with 15+ days off a month. At one point the largest pilot nationality at EK was Americans… they left simply because the Terms and Conditions, and opportunities got much better back home.

[FlightDetent]

Stay in the US for your own sake! I'll bite now, or chew a little. 8-)

Join any SO cadet programme CPL-> B737/A320 be it FlyDubai or some A320 operator preferably in Egypt, and after 5 years and 2000 jetliner hrs move back to US?
Long shot, but the finance should play out with two added benefits:
+ will appreciate the US for life
+ will quench the thrist of expat lifestyle and the roots calling for the ancestral region (two birds)

At the proper age which he seems to be, workable?

[VThokie2]

I'll bite now, or chew a little. 8-)

Join any SO cadet programme CPL-> B737/A320 be it FlyDubai or some A320 operator preferably in Egypt, and after 5 years and 2000 jetliner hrs move back to US?
Long shot, but the finance should play out with two added benefits:
+ will appreciate the US for life
+ will quench the thrist of expat lifestyle and the roots calling for the ancestral region (two birds)

At the proper age which he seems to be, workable?

Yes could be workable, however not having ANY (literal) part 121 time previous to jumping overseas MAY limit opportunities upon return to the US and possibly delay a quick upgrade even though you would be well qualified m, see 121.436(a)(3). It also will delay your PRIA paperwork getting processed as it will require “good faith” exemption processing which depending on carrier might delay your class date…. All of which would also require you converting your ATP once you get it as an expat which will be more than a simple paperwork exercise…. Also correct me if I’m wrong but don’t those SO programs require one to pay for the corresponding type rating? That kind of wipes out any financial benefit to your idea.

[FlightDetent]

My observed experience in the EU is the fishy pay-to-typerate programmes break out even or actually outperform the in-house/MPL cadetship routes within 5 years. While being more accessible to wider choice of talented people of various backgrounds and geographical roots.

Good for the poster to read your valuable insights, thanks for sharing those.

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[VThokie2]

My observed experience in the EU is the fishy pay-to-typerate programmes break out even or actually outperform the in-house/MPL cadetship routes within 5 years. While being more accessible to wider choice of talented people of various backgrounds and geographical roots.

Good for the poster to read your valuable insights, thanks for sharing those.

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Yes however the original poster is not in the EU they are in the US where there are neither MPL “cadetships” or “pay to play” routes…..for a US airlines you build some time in a light aircraft, get hired at a regional airline then THEY give you your type rating and instead of bonding you they give you a bonus if you stay…. Then (in the current era at least) you move on to a legacy or LCC in a few years . Apples to Oranges

[FlightDetent]

Yes however the original poster is not in the EU they are in the US where there are neither MPL “cadetships” or “pay to play” routes…..for a US airlines you build some time in a light aircraft, get hired at a regional airline then THEY give you your type rating and instead of bonding you they give you a bonus if you stay…. Then (in the current era at least) you move on to a legacy or LCC in a few years . Apples to Oranges Understood well. The EU pilot employment freak show (originally widespread enabled by the Irish CAA and pushed / paid for by RyanAir investors) shall of course be quarantined to that sanctuary only.

The pitch was WizzAir Abu Dhabi (TR cost 15k USD) or cadetship at DXB FlyDubai. I would suppose Air Arabia preys on the market of young talent too. By the end of year 4 the gent would have accumulated 2k jet hours, but that's a full circle we discussed already.

Not sure how much of a curved ball that is, luckily I don't need to play it. The point being made was about finances, that pay-to-rate is not any weaker on the cash after 5 yrs - despite the instincts to opine otherwise - pure capitalism at work. Not that it is any good but only that the financial argument cannot be used against it.

Keep calm and join SouthWest :-)

[Hotclown]

You live in the literally the best place in the world to become a pilot. Get your commercial, instrument and CFI. Instruct until 1500 hours then get a regional jet job for a couple of years. Once you have some big jet time you'll be able to walk into any ME os an expat.

or if you spare 40k usd after your cpl/atpl apply for flydubai second officer job. best in its category