Air China diversion this evening

[TwoFiftyBelowTen]

CCA174 SYD-PEK B777 from west of TSV (north-east of Cloncurry) observed to have turned towards CNS for a while now looks like it’s heading to ADL
….. nope, now heading west

[BuzzBox]

WTF??

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[sunnySA]

CCA174 SYD-PEK B777 from west of TSV (north-east of Cloncurry) observed to have turned towards CNS for a while now looks like it’s heading to ADL
….. nope, now heading west
May I suggest a weather diversion, zigged when they should've zagged.

[KAPAC]

Think of a number , double it and go . Then go again even further. That’s my technique. Good luck .

[framer]

Think of a number , double it and go That’s my technique as well!

[Switchbait]

“Strengthen the observation of the weather radar. Be safety!”

[DirectAnywhere]

WTF??

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Fkn lol. If they were flying under some carriers’ fuel policies, they would have run out of fuel near Manila after that effort.

I’ve seen Chinese carriers do some weird s$&t around convective weather, including flying straight through the middle of it at night, or going 90 degrees around stuff that wasn’t actually there when you looked out the window.

But yeah, that’s awesomely incompetent. Couldn’t pay me enough to sit down the back of one of those things.

[TwoFiftyBelowTen]

May I suggest a weather diversion, zigged when they should've zagged.

No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open

[VHOED191006]

No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open
Well I would be steering well clear of any weather cell if something like that was happening to me lol

[scavengepump]

Nope it was due weather. Heard the clowns on the radio.

[morno]

No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open

I heard they had requested 200 miles off track due to weather, so it’s just pure incompetence.

[BuzzBox]

I’ve seen Chinese carriers do some weird s$&t around convective weather, including flying straight through the middle of it at night, or going 90 degrees around stuff that wasn’t actually there when you looked out the window.

Yup. I once followed a Chinese carrier into SYD from Asia. Approaching the Australian mainland, with ZERO weather (easily determined by simply looking out the :mad: window), the Chinese aircraft ahead requested a weather diversion and then kept diverting further and further left of track. They could only have been avoiding the coastline. I also saw one of 'em fly right through the upper part of a large Cb near Hainan Island. We were flying the opposite direction and, having diverted around said Cb, had a very clear view as they flew right through it. :ugh:

[TwoFiftyBelowTen]

What also interested me was that it was at the same level as an Emirates A380, converging at the same level.. while deviating, and lateral course was an unknown?
Seems that the level change F340 to F330
was very last-minute

[DirectAnywhere]

Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

[VHOED191006]

Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

What other aircraft were doing at time:
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What happened in the end:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1604x787/msedge_be0uwo1lpy_9fe9558f86a50139a4d8088449e56fb36f139b7f.p ng


One very good way to get rid of all of your reserves....

[Going Nowhere]

Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

Not sure if this will work but if you use FlightRadar24’s playback feature, you can watch it all unfold.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2024-02-13/11:37/20x/-22.62,139.47/6

Playback from 13-Feb 1140UTC.

[C441]

I wonder how that would have worked out in TIBA……..

Hopefully they'd have been the only ones there.

[KRviator]

Good work with the replay. :ok: Would've made interesting reading if something did happen downroute, like that Singapore flight that peeled off to Indonesia last year.

[DirectAnywhere]

Not sure if this will work but if you use FlightRadar24’s playback feature, you can watch it all unfold.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2024-02-13/11:37/20x/-22.62,139.47/6

Playback from 13-Feb 1140UTC.

thanks. Very interesting. Watching JQ674 it’s apparent that’s a pretty major Fk up from the Air China guys. Some of their compatriots didn’t even deviate off track. 😂


Just imagine you’re the captain and you come back off your break to see you’ve lost half an hour and four tonnes of fuel.

[Window heat]

Is Geoff Dot flying for them now? 😉

[donpizmeov]

Normally they have the radar off and newspaper over the windows. These guys must be new : )

[KAPAC]

Ex colleague at Air China said same , paper covering windows everyday and won’t accept climb all to do with radiation . Fly into edge of storm , no issue .

[Trevor the lover]

Lookin' for Pine Gap??

[nvfr]

It’s amusing watching you guys criticise on this thread. I distinctly remember flying into Christchurch on a gin clear night. Heard an Aussie crew divert around weather. Turns out said weather was Mount Cook

[MalcolmReynolds]

Fark me that was really close with Emirates! These CCA guys really are clowns!

[SWBKCB]

No top secret Aussie installations to get "lost" over? :suspect:

[No Idea Either]

What’s the newspaper in the window for. Was it really sunny or does it shield from cosmic radiation as alluded above!!!!!

[Chronic Snoozer]

It’s amusing watching you guys criticise on this thread. I distinctly remember flying into Christchurch on a gin clear night. Heard an Aussie crew divert around weather. Turns out said weather was Mount Cook

Maybe these guys were avoiding Mount Isa. ;-)

[Capt Fathom]

Heard an Aussie crew divert around weather. Turns out said weather was Mount Cook

I’d say that was a great outcome…. avoiding Mt Cook.

[First_Principal]

I’d say that was a great outcome…. avoiding Mt Cook.

Yeah, it has a fairly solid look to it ;)



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[cLeArIcE]

Maybe these guys were avoiding Mount Isa. ;-)
Also a very wise decision :}