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unobtanium
8th Feb 2024, 07:27
the spirit of outsourcing qantas aircraft's to MRO's all arond the world seems to have come back to bite them.

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IAW
8th Feb 2024, 07:51
They lost so many staff from their Brisbane Hangars during covid. It will take years to rebuild the lost knowledge.

In the meantime they have to take whatever maintenance slots they can get overseas.

The industry is so hard to attract new blood into to start with. Qantas have not appropriately invested into their in-house maintenance adequately for decades.


unobtanium
8th Feb 2024, 08:07
yes and the last engineering exec's pet project LAX hanger is loosing newly trained staffs every day to competitors when told this alan joyce said he could not understand why people will not want to work for amazing prestigious qantas

both these men are gone and now staffs are reporting aircraft's returning from abudabbi sasco haeco etc with multiple errors and defecs

romeocharlie
8th Feb 2024, 08:46
with multiple errors and defecs

Not dissimilar to your post. If you're going to bag out management, at least make your post legible. I don't disagree with you though - blind Freddie could've seen what's happening now.

dejapoo
8th Feb 2024, 09:04
Not dissimilar to your post. If you're going to bag out management, at least make your post legible. I don't disagree with you though - blind Freddie could've seen what's happening now.

hahahahaha

DirectAnywhere
8th Feb 2024, 10:18
The entire international longhaul fleet is reduced to a rump of 8x380s (7?) and a handful of 787s, which are now insufficient to maintain even the current schedule during peak northern summer.

Meanwhile overseas carriers add huge capacity into the Australian market, while QF loses several thousand seats a week into the few markets it has maintained.

What a sad excuse for an airline this has become.

Big Silver Spoon
8th Feb 2024, 11:06
As Qantas are quickly finding out, when you’re a minnow and you need urgent maintenance, they’ll fit you in behind the larger fish. When they can.

ampclamp
8th Feb 2024, 22:47
I think someone calculated that about 5000 years (or more) of engineering/maintenance experience walked out the door from Sydney when they let everyone go that wanted to. It was insanity.

ebt
9th Feb 2024, 00:11
As Qantas are quickly finding out, when you’re a minnow and you need urgent maintenance, they’ll fit you in behind the larger fish. When they can.

Correct - at a recent MRO event, chiefs at HAECO and other MROs were saying that airlines are asking for dedicated lines in offshore shops, and the peak demand is all-year round, not just northern winter. That makes it harder for these shops to accept onesies and twosies, so they can charge above the odds for it. And even then, getting the parts required in a timely manner is practically impossible.

unobtanium
9th Feb 2024, 00:56
I think someone calculated that about 5000 years (or more) of engineering/maintenance experience walked out the door from Sydney when they let everyone go that wanted to. It was insanity.

best / worse of all many of these engineers are now working for competitors, bonza rex virgin etc are full of ex qantas engineers and would be in much worse position without them

neville_nobody
9th Feb 2024, 04:22
This is what a executive bonus culture ends up looking like.

Global Aviator
9th Feb 2024, 05:49
Not directly related to this thread but the QF problem as we all
know is management.

The big hoohaaarrr of the new CEO taking over when infact she was an AJ puppet, the promises have amounted to?

We all know a new C suite and board is what’s needed but it ain’t gunna happen anytime soon.

Jo Public is still brainwashed that QF is the national icon.

QF rely on way to many outsourced facilities, Hong Kong, Manila, Singapore, Middle East and no doubt many more. The LAX home base doesn’t seem to be in good order either.

Ahhh the days of Avalon, ok wake up.

Sad sad sad.