Lanc on one engine - could it fly?

[DogTailRed2]

The usual argument ensued on facebook with this image.
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So could an empty Lanc fly on one engine and maintain level flight?

[ex82watcher]

I have no idea,but perhaps that one is about to crash ?:ugh:

[BEagle]

Probably an air display special? Dive to around 360KIAS, level off and feather 3 engines. Then fly past hoping like heck that they'll unfeather after the fly past!

One of my VC10 simulator instructors had flown the deH Hornet (lucky blighter!). He told me that a Hornet pilot had once spotted a formation of Sabres well below him, so he dived on them, shut down one engine and went through their formation on one, rolling as he went..... The Sabre chaps had neither seen nor heard about the Hornet and were totally astonished!

[sycamore]

I`m sure I`ve seen a pic.`somewhere` of a formation of 3 RN Hornets looping with `Lead` having both feathered,and #2 and #3 with one each feathered....
As Beags notes,plenty of speed downhill,quick `feather`,flypast,and a rapid ` 3,4, 1,before you run out of airspeed,...and ideas...
Also, the Bell P-59 Airacomet CTP,Jack Woollams would occasionally creep up,wearing a gorilla mask,bowler hat and cigar, alongside piston engined fighters,wave and then accelerate away......leaving a smoky trail..

[chevvron]

I think you'll find that was a Lanc testbed demonstrating a Griffon engine for a flying display; look at the aircraft behind it, they are different types.

[Expatrick]

Maybe low fuel, no payload, just 2 crew, etc - it might be feasible?

[gravedigger666]

Its predecessor was pretty crap on two engines! I did read somewhere years ago that the Lanc will get you home on two, but on one its a slow decent.

[Jhieminga]

There are similar photos of a Lincoln doing this for a quick pass. I would say: just a display act that started with a dive and ended with a quick restart and a Hail Mary.

[Haraka]

A Lanc. went round at a display at St.Eval c.1951 cutting an engine on each circuit.
Including the 4th!
Aicraft dived over the cliff eventually spluttering back to life over the sea and landing back :)

[Clyffe Pypard]

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[nonsense]

The usual argument ensued on facebook with this image.
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So could an empty Lanc fly on one engine and maintain level flight?
You appear to have linked to an image on facebook, which has timed out to prevent it being used on external sites like PPRUNE.

Is this the image?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x429/untitled_e7f93cc08bd1a513dfe693980807017d1ffdfae8.jpg
Source:
https://twitter.com/clark_aviation/status/1205836829032890369
And since we seem to be suffering the disappearing link bug again, here too:
twitter.com/clark_aviation/status/1205836829032890369

[rolling20]

Haven't got it to hand, but I'm sure in 'Enemy Coast Ahead', Guy Gibson was taken on his first flight in a Lanc, by Hoppy Hopgood.
I think he demonstrated it with one engine operative, 'losing height, but enough to get you away from the enemy coast'.
Later, he took the Secretary of State for Air ( IIRC) and demonstrated the Lanc on two engines and then the flight engineer, rather than unfeathering them, feathered /shut down the two live engines!

[AvroLincoln]

Why then did a Lincoln with , I believe, just one engine failing, just clear the roof of our married quarter at Waddington and plonk down on the rubbish dump next to the village quarry, around 1952? I was watching in amazement and disbelief, aged 9.

[DaveReidUK]

Why then did a Lincoln with , I believe, just one engine failing, just clear the roof of our married quarter at Waddington and plonk down on the rubbish dump next to the village quarry, around 1952? I was watching in amazement and disbelief, aged 9.

Just a question of energy.

[Haraka]

Converting momentum in to an apparent single engine climb was an old Farnborough SBAC show trick. e.g. Percival Prince.

[treadigraph]

Why then did a Lincoln with , I believe, just one engine failing, just clear the roof of our married quarter at Waddington and plonk down on the rubbish dump next to the village quarry, around 1952? I was watching in amazement and disbelief, aged 9.
This one:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/248992

[DH106]

This one:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/248992

I love the phrase "nearly missing" from the Aviation Safety Net page linked above:-

"On touch down, the Avro Lincoln developed an uncontrollable swing and crashed off the edge of the airfield, nearly missing an estate of some newly built NCO married quarters and slewed around ending up on a rubbish dump"

Presumably "narrowly missing" or "nearly hitting" perhaps? :)

[safetypee]

Lincoln with all 4 feathered at Farnborough airshow mid 50s
Flew past on the single RR Dart test engine in the nose.

[Allan Lupton]

I love the phrase "nearly missing" from the Aviation Safety Net page linked above:-
Presumably "narrowly missing" or "nearly hitting" perhaps? :)
Probably a back-formation from the well-known phenomenon "a near miss" - we know that means "narrowly missing," but it could/should mean "hit it, but nearly didn't"

[chevvron]

Converting momentum in to an apparent single engine climb was an old Farnborough SBAC show trick. e.g. Percival Prince.
The Airspeed Ambassador testbed with Napier Eland engines did its entire display on one engine.

[bobward]

Back in the '90's I was lucky enough to see the late Bob Hoover doing his 'energy management' display in a Rockwell Commander, with both props feathered.
Absolutely amazing!

[megan]

Couple of chaps told me they used to do single engine circuits in the C-130 (empty, other three set at zero TQ). Likely??

[treadigraph]

I love the phrase "nearly missing" from the Aviation Safety Net page linked above:-

"On touch down, the Avro Lincoln developed an uncontrollable swing and crashed off the edge of the airfield, nearly missing an estate of some newly built NCO married quarters and slewed around ending up on a rubbish dump"

Presumably "narrowly missing" or "nearly hitting" perhaps? :)
The main author of the ASN entry is a prodigious adder of historical UK mishaps to the site and his narrative is sometimes slightly wayward!