Swire's Swiss Cheese Sandwich

[HoldenCaufield]

I don't think I'm a Top Gun by any stretch of the imagination. I'd say that I was a relatively competent pilot, who makes mistakes and misses things from time-to-time. The thing I enjoyed was that CX had a huge amount of experience behind folk like me, catching those mistakes and errors, passing on wisdom and offering advice. It seemed like a very safe way to play the game.

We all know the stories of experience being lost at CX since 2019, but over the last few months I'm really starting to notice it at work. Up the front, down the back and also in all the supporting areas.

Am I naive and this doesn't matter in 'modern aviation', or are Cathay really doing a fine job of lining up these slices of cheese?

A genuine question: If - god forbid - something serious happened to an aircraft, beyond the crew, are any decision makers culpable under the law?

[AQIS Boigu]

I don't think I'm a Top Gun by any stretch of the imagination. I'd say that I was a relatively competent pilot, who makes mistakes and misses things from time-to-time. The thing I enjoyed was that CX had a huge amount of experience behind folk like me, catching those mistakes and errors, passing on wisdom and offering advice. It seemed like a very safe way to play the game.

We all know the stories of experience being lost at CX since 2019, but over the last few months I'm really starting to notice it at work. Up the front, down the back and also in all the supporting areas.

Am I naive and this doesn't matter in 'modern aviation', or are Cathay really doing a fine job of lining up these slices of cheese?

A genuine question: If - god forbid - something serious happened to an aircraft, beyond the crew, are any decision makers culpable under the law?


I agree, borderline single pilot these days

- no or very little SA

- no support during busy times (tech issues/MEL, de-icing, delays)

- verbal intervention required just because of some track shortening

- a dual input every two months or so when for years none was required


Releasing someone after 14 sectors FO training just because he/she did a few good line checks and sims as an SO (all Vol8 these days) is outright idiotic and dangerous

[Oasis]

It's been vol8 for the last 25 years!
That's what you get when the training department is mostly a checking department, and employment is in jeopardy, every time you go in the sim.

[Freehills]

Not just the airline. Talking to someone at the airport, they have a few oldies/ true believers, new recruits, and a gaping hole in the middle due to people with experience quietly slipping off and migrating from HK. The number of bubble tea shops in Australia has exploded, one of the routes to get a business visa to get out of dodge

[pill]

Let's see how long till all upgrades are done on the 320, then 330 or 74, then 777 or 330/350. Sectors, not seat warming in the cruise are required. You can cut the guts out of training, or you can do upgrades onto longhaul fleets. Not both. Not the FO's fault they're hitting the line a touch underdone, that one is owned by the management.