CX lowers flying hours for upgrades by 25%....

[jetjockey696]

Hong Kong flag carrier Cathay Pacific slashes flying hours required to train as captain by 25% amid flight disruptions and manpower crunch

https://alphaedgeinvesting.com/2024/01/15/scmp-hong-kong-flag-carrier-cathay-pacific-slashes-flying-hours-required-to-train-as-captain-by-25-amid-flight-disruptions-and-manpower-crunch/

[joblow]

So let’s see we can’t upgrade pilots to captain because they don’t meet the hour requirements . I know let’s reduce the standards , what could possibly go wrong with this plan ?

[VforVENDETTA]

Swiss cheese holes are lining up for cathay. Popcorn...

[main_dog]

Wasn’t that long ago that you required more hours than that to be hired as a First Officer.

[Zapp_Brannigan]

Now I understand why the Flight Operations risk assessment manager resigned. He probably didn't like where things were going.

[Good Business Sense]

As we know there are hours and there are hours.

In a CX environment with long haul (3/4 crew) and short haul flights and where, mainly, the autopilot goes in on take-off between 100-500 feet and out on landing at circa 1,000 feet (trimmed and no further config changes) then a 3,000 hour (does it include bunk time or SO time?) CX cadet will have had about 12 hours hands on flying time before they become a wide body Captain. Some commercial pilots will do that in two days.

You can't buy experience - nor can you get much in a long haul airline even with a smattering of short haul flights in the mix.

[KABOY]

Hong Kong flag carrier Cathay Pacific slashes flying hours required to train as captain by 25% amid flight disruptions and manpower crunch

https://alphaedgeinvesting.com/2024/01/15/scmp-hong-kong-flag-carrier-cathay-pacific-slashes-flying-hours-required-to-train-as-captain-by-25-amid-flight-disruptions-and-manpower-crunch/

If you haven’t worked it out by now, CX management are making a mockery of the profession.

COS18 and now this means they place ZERO recognition on pilot experience. You are now recognised as machinery operators.

I think soon it will be time that regardless of seat you will all be wearing plain blue epaulettes.

Better still, just drop the epaulettes….

[Gnadenburg]

I guess they aren’t doing the old Dragonair short haul, upgrade standard anymore? It will be interesting to find out from the ex-KA guys still checking there how far the expected standard has dropped.

[WhatShortage]

So let’s see we can’t upgrade pilots to captain because they don’t meet the hour requirements . I know let’s reduce the standards , what could possibly go wrong with this plan ?
When you have people flying the aircraft for 5-10 years to do an upgrade, if they are not ready for it I think there's something wrong with recruitment or company culture. I can't see a reason why a pilot with 3-5 years of 600-800 hours every one of them PLUS the hours you've done in the past to get in wouldn't be ready to do an upgrade.

Got friends at 26 being captains with +1-2 years of experience already. Sure, short haul with 737/320, put 2 more years for a 330/50 or 777/47 and there you go. It's the company, their culture and how DEMOTIVATED pilots feel to do anything beyond the bare minimum to get the salary. that's Crystal clear.

[cadetjockey]

When you have people flying the aircraft for 5-10 years to do an upgrade, if they are not ready for it I think there's something wrong with recruitment or company culture. I can't see a reason why a pilot with 3-5 years of 600-800 hours every one of them PLUS the hours you've done in the past to get in wouldn't be ready to do an upgrade.

Got friends at 26 being captains with +1-2 years of experience already. Sure, short haul with 737/320, put 2 more years for a 330/50 or 777/47 and there you go. It's the company, their culture and how DEMOTIVATED pilots feel to do anything beyond the bare minimum to get the salary. that's Crystal clear.

not sure 900hrs in 10-11months is doing the bare minimum…

[jetjockey696]

Dont worry about CX and pilot shortage....it all sorted... :ok:Cathay working with Airbus on single-pilot system for long-haul.....
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-cathay-working-with-airbus-single-pilot-system-long-haul-2021-06-16/#:~:text=The%20programme%2C%20known%20within%20Airbus,the%20 path%20to%20international%20acceptance.

[WhatShortage]

not sure 900hrs in 10-11months is doing the bare minimum…
If you understand that flying an aircraft is doing the hours either 500 or 900, congrats, you're doing the bare minimum which is literally flying the aircraft.

Then you have those that on those 900 hours also have done their part to be promoted by getting into FDM, CRM, etc... Knowing their books and actually learning and doing something productive towards the upgrade (study? Maybe?) apart from writing the hours on the logbook, which seems your case.

Continue paying peanuts and you'll get the monkeys.

[raven11]

Dont worry about CX and pilot shortage....it all sorted... :ok:Cathay working with Airbus on single-pilot system for long-haul.....
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-cathay-working-with-airbus-single-pilot-system-long-haul-2021-06-16/#:~:text=The%20programme%2C%20known%20within%20Airbus,the%20 path%20to%20international%20acceptance.

from the article….”Commercial implementation would first require extensive testing, regulatory approval and pilot training with "absolutely no compromise on safety", Cathay said”

Yeah right. In an effort to beclown themselves further, extensive testing would be followed by an internal (pre-concluded) study carried out by the in house Risk Assessment Department who will rubber stamp it with their seal of approval. Because nothing screams safety like single pilot long haul and, as they like to keep repeating, safety is their number one priority.

[BunkPunk]

LOL…. That’s why they ordered themselves A350 Freighters, I’m sure.

from the article….”Commercial implementation would first require extensive testing, regulatory approval and pilot training with "absolutely no compromise on safety", Cathay said”

Yeah right. In an effort to beclown themselves further, extensive testing would be followed by an internal (pre-concluded) study carried out by the in house Risk Assessment Department who will rubber stamp it with their seal of approval. Because nothing screams safety like single pilot long haul and, as they like to keep repeating, safety is their number one priority.