Jet2 pay rises

[Boeing 7E7]

Jet2 have huge and aggressive expansion plans, coming from fairly humble beginnings to now a major threat and competitor to Tui. So much so, that Tui is actually loosing pilots to Jet2 - a situation unthinkable just a few years ago!

What have Jet2 pay rises been like over the past few years?

[Basicsteve]

Jet2 have huge and aggressive expansion plans, coming from fairly humble beginnings to now a major threat and competitor to Tui. So much so, that Tui is actually loosing pilots to Jet2 - a situation unthinkable just a few years ago!

What have Jet2 pay rises been like over the past few years?

9% last year , 5% just announced
very good share options / bonuses

[Boeing 7E7]

9% last year , 5% just announced
very good share options / bonuses

Thanks for this. Was last years 9% awarded in one go, or is that the total of a number of smaller pay rises throughout the year? Can you elaborate more on the share options? 🙏

[Basicsteve]

Thanks for this. Was last years 9% awarded in one go, or is that the total of a number of smaller pay rises throughout the year? Can you elaborate more on the share options? 🙏

the 9% was in one go , this 5% was on the rumour mill for a while so nice to see its true !

Share option I don’t really understand, I’m sure someone can elaborate, but something like 5% of profit …..
I don’t have access to the email at the moment

[cloudbash]

So it was 6% last year and is likely to be 5% this year.

However, you are not automatically eligible for it. I think you have to do a year, which makes sense.

You say tui pilots are coming to Jet2. I’ve seen a couple of FOs……never seen any Captains. I would argue that historically more FOs have gone to Tui than vice versa.

[DCT_ELSIR]

Is the 5% pay rise accounted for in the figures on PPJN or is it a very recent thing? Is it 5% uplift on basic only, or does it also uplift sector pay / time away from base? Thanks.

[Basicsteve]

So it was 6% last year and is likely to be 5% this year.

However, you are not automatically eligible for it. I think you have to do a year, which makes sense.

You say tui pilots are coming to Jet2. I’ve seen a couple of FOs……never seen any Captains. I would argue that historically more FOs have gone to Tui than vice versa.


Im sorry that is wrong , do you work for Jet2 ?
9% April this year , 5% April next year ( it’s confirmed)
you would be utterly mad to leave Jet2 for TUI
Yes many years ago when I was sat in my 777 in the flag carrier’s colours I used to think Jet2 looked a bit W*nk but now they are a major player.

[Boeing 7E7]

So it was 6% last year and is likely to be 5% this year.

However, you are not automatically eligible for it. I think you have to do a year, which makes sense.

You say tui pilots are coming to Jet2. I’ve seen a couple of FOs……never seen any Captains. I would argue that historically more FOs have gone to Tui than vice versa.

That’s right - no captains. But FOs yes. Not sure how many though.

Just to clarify though. Was it 9% last year or 6%?

[Basicsteve]

Is the 5% pay rise accounted for in the figures on PPJN or is it a very recent thing? Is it 5% uplift on basic only, or does it also uplift sector pay / time away from base? Thanks.


I believe it’s everything

[Basicsteve]

I believe it’s everything


no those are the old figs

[cloudbash]

Im sorry that is wrong , do you work for Jet2 ?
9% April this year , 5% April next year ( it’s confirmed)
you would be utterly mad to leave Jet2 for TUI
Yes many years ago when I was sat in my 777 in the flag carrier’s colours I used to think Jet2 looked a bit W*nk but now they are a major player.

No I work for Air India……what a stupid question! :ugh:
I was talking about the bonus. It was 6% FY22-23. For FY 23-24 it will likely be 5%…….its a discretionary bonus so not guaranteed. All being well and no big black swan event then it should be paid.

[Boeing 7E7]

Is it possible to get the actual pay rises/increase with the dates over say, the last 3 years? I only ask because getting an accurate response is important to building the correct picture. There is a perception in TUI that Jet2 have had significant increases to remuneration over this time frame and the gulf between the remuneration between the two carriers has significantly reduced. But unfortunately this may not be correct. I wish it was.

[Mr Good Cat]

That’s right - no captains. But FOs yes. Not sure how many though.

Just to clarify though. Was it 9% last year or 6%?

I know of 3 captains who’ve made the move. 2 of them are ex Thomas Cook though, so likely to be driven by job security rather than perks.

[Mr Good Cat]

That’s right - no captains. But FOs yes. Not sure how many though.

Just to clarify though. Was it 9% last year or 6%?

I know of 3 captains who’ve made the move. Two of them are ex Thomas Cook though, so likely to be driven by job security rather than perks.

[Vokes55]

Why on earth would you leave TUI for Jet2 for job security?

Most people join Jet2 to be based closer to home.

[Flying Wild]

Thanks for this. Was last years 9% awarded in one go, or is that the total of a number of smaller pay rises throughout the year? Can you elaborate more on the share options? 🙏

It’s not share options in the traditional sense. It’s a share save scheme. You can save up to £500 per month (taken from post tax salary) over three years then have an option to buy shares at the price set at the start of the scheme. For instance, someone who started in the first issue in 2022 had an option price of 766p. Current share value is 1280p.

[Chesty Morgan]

Why on earth would you leave TUI for Jet2 for job security?

Most people join Jet2 to be based closer to home.
Done a survey have you?

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Is it possible to get the actual pay rises/increase with the dates over say, the last 3 years?

3 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
2 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
1 year ago - 9% all in one go
This years pay rise will be 5.5% all in one go

Additionally there is a profit share scheme. Last year it was 6% of the profit shared out between all employees.

There is also a share save scheme giving you an opportunity to opt in and save upto £500 per month for a 3 year period. When the 3 years is up you use the money saved to purchase shares at a price set at the start of the saving scheme.

[flyer4life]

So still a real terms pay cut unfortunately.

BoE inflation calculator shows total inflation of 22% from 2019 to now :uhoh:

[Potatos_69]

So still a real terms pay cut unfortunately.

BoE inflation calculator shows total inflation of 22% from 2019 to now :uhoh:

Sadly everywhere is sub inflation in the UK.

[HandsomeHarry]

So still a real terms pay cut unfortunately.

BoE inflation calculator shows total inflation of 22% from 2019 to now :uhoh:


Someone may correct me but I believe it may different to what’s posted above.

2024 - 5.5%
2023 - 9%
2022 - 8% (2 separate increases of 4%)

[MrWhitty]

Why on earth would you leave TUI for Jet2 for job security?

Most people join Jet2 to be based closer to home.

Once upon a time that was true, it’s changed now.
TUI pilots are now working their notice or have already left to Jet2, Virgin, DHL, even EasyJet this winter and yes a number went last year to Jet2, stayed in the same base they where in with TUI as well.

The company is going in the wrong direction, it’s obvious to anyone who joins in the last 4-5 years. Ts and Cs slashed, pay below that of Jet2s for most towards the bottom of the seniority list. Time to command that mirrors SH BA command now with less pension. But it’s fine if you’re willing to do lots of overtime, have no quality of a family life and be constantly fatigued.

FairPlay to Jet2 they moved into a gap that Thomas cook left and have done a lot very well and they’re growing on that success now. It’s a matter of time before a Jet2 aircraft lands in Florida/Mexico and I’ve a feeling they won’t be targeting BA/VS customers either………

[Oceanic815]

Johnny, I’m pretty certain there were 2 pay rises in 2021. If I remember correctly it was 4% in Apr and another 4% in Oct.

[JM926]

April 2022, a 4% (I think was 4…if not 4, 5 maybe) pay rise took effect.

later that summer a further 4% was given and after summer 2022 a one off £1000 bonus was paid

April 2023, a 9% pay rise took effect.

July 2023, a profit share pot of money, 6% of profits was paid out.

April 2024, a 5.5% payrise is due to take effect.

july 2024, a profit share pot of money, this time 5% of profits is due to be paid out

if you run the numbers, I think LHS salary back when covid initially kicked off was a little shy of 109k basic. When you run those pay rises through it gets you to what will be new basic salary from April 2024 for LHS which is about £136.5k

[Boeing 7E7]

3 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
2 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
1 year ago - 9% all in one go
This years pay rise will be 5.5% all in one go

Additionally there is a profit share scheme. Last year it was 6% of the profit shared out between all employees.

There is also a share save scheme giving you an opportunity to opt in and save upto £500 per month for a 3 year period. When the 3 years is up you use the money saved to purchase shares at a price set at the start of the saving scheme.

thank you 🙏

[Boeing 7E7]

April 2022, a 4% (I think was 4…if not 4, 5 maybe) pay rise took effect.

later that summer a further 4% was given and after summer 2022 a one off £1000 bonus was paid

April 2023, a 9% pay rise took effect.

July 2023, a profit share pot of money, 6% of profits was paid out.

April 2024, a 5.5% payrise is due to take effect.

july 2024, a profit share pot of money, this time 5% of profits is due to be paid out

if you run the numbers, I think LHS salary back when covid initially kicked off was a little shy of 109k basic. When you run those pay rises through it gets you to what will be new basic salary from April 2024 for LHS which is about £136.5k

thank you. Very helpful 🙏

[MartinB738]

Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?

[Prob30Tempo TSRA]

Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?


I’m not sure a small rise over 150k is worth it tax wise

[Basicsteve]

Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?


with my rough maths basics are looking like :

£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k

£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860

tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter

[JM926]

with my rough maths basics are looking like :

£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k

£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860

tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter


I have never had 10-15k of flying pay in the RHS at J2. Perhaps if you are in a hugely busy base and flat out but it still seems optimistic to be honest.

That said, between flying/sector pay PLUS profit share then the total 100-105k probably is about right for SFO

[midnight cruiser]

It's not all about money (and frankly all the locos pay within a few grand of reach other, plus winter rosters that apparently are still usually filled up to minimum days off with standbys, so that benefit is debatable. Plus uniforms that look like they were sourced from a party fancy dress shop). Described to me as a very very odd company, and not in a good way; She thought highly of the pilot side, but support from the other teams/mini fiefdoms (CC, ground etc) dependant on whether they feel like it or not, and only accountable upwards to management at HQ, and not within base, hence weird infighting and occasional lack of cooperation. If an airline feels the need to plaster "friendly low fares" on its planes, (crocodile smiles abound) and when "work as one team" is described as working less as one team than any other she had encountered, one has to wonder....

[Fletch]

So has the Jet2 bonus been reduced for this coming/future year(s)?

[Prob30Tempo TSRA]

It's not all about money (and frankly all the locos pay within a few grand of reach other, plus winter rosters that apparently are still usually filled up to minimum days off with standbys, so that benefit is debatable. Plus uniforms that look like they were sourced from a party fancy dress shop). Described to me as a very very odd company, and not in a good way; She thought highly of the pilot side, but support from the other teams/mini fiefdoms (CC, ground etc) dependant on whether they feel like it or not, and only accountable upwards to management at HQ, and not within base, hence weird infighting and occasional lack of cooperation. If an airline feels the need to plaster "friendly low fares" on its planes, (crocodile smiles abound) and when "work as one team" is described as working less as one team than any other she had encountered, one has to wonder....


what’s wrong with “ friendly low fares “? Seems they are trying to to distance themselves from the opposition - unfriendly low fares and the clockwork orange .

I’m impressed with their TCs and the way they’ve built the business - I remember channex when it had a handful of F27s - they’ve come a long way

[Chesty Morgan]

So has the Jet2 bonus been reduced for this coming/future year(s)?
It was initially set at 5%, last year they upped it to 6%, this year it's 5 again.

So, no.

[HidekiTojo]

5% is a rubbish deal.

[Chesty Morgan]

5% of half a billion isn't "rubbish".

[Mr Albert Ross]

Half a billion Zim$$s??

:p

[Vokes55]

Once upon a time that was true, it’s changed now.
TUI pilots are now working their notice or have already left to Jet2, Virgin, DHL, even EasyJet this winter and yes a number went last year to Jet2, stayed in the same base they where in with TUI as well.

The company is going in the wrong direction, it’s obvious to anyone who joins in the last 4-5 years. Ts and Cs slashed, pay below that of Jet2s for most towards the bottom of the seniority list. Time to command that mirrors SH BA command now with less pension. But it’s fine if you’re willing to do lots of overtime, have no quality of a family life and be constantly fatigued.

FairPlay to Jet2 they moved into a gap that Thomas cook left and have done a lot very well and they’re growing on that success now. It’s a matter of time before a Jet2 aircraft lands in Florida/Mexico and I’ve a feeling they won’t be targeting BA/VS customers either………

According to Jet2 management and willingly slurped up by the workforce and a select few obsessives on here, yes.

In the real world, no.

[Basicsteve]

According to Jet2 management and willingly slurped up by the workforce and a select few obsessives on here, yes.

In the real world, no.


Unfortunately you can’t hide from the facts , I hope TUI remain and continue to stick around as it’s good to have some competition!

[Mr Good Cat]

with my rough maths basics are looking like :<br /><br />£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k<br /><br />£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860<br /><br />tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter<br /><br />

Okay, so this is just a rough approximation for skippers in 2024 assuming about 700 hours per year (so only relevant to 737 crews as the 757 and Bus are very quiet at the moment):
Basic £137,000+Fight Pay £10,000+Pension £13,700+Bonus £10,000
= Line Skipper package c.£170

+LTC / TRI adjustment c.£20k
= LTC or TRI package£190k

+TRE adjustment £30k
= TRE package c.£200k

Trainers work very hard. Plan accordingly.

Line skippers work hard for 4-6 months, then relatively quiet over winter.

[Mr Good Cat]

Why on earth would you leave TUI for Jet2 for job security?

Decisions based on history, and the balance sheet, and the future plans for both airlines.

This isn't a competition, or a willy-waving contest... If you prefer TUI, that's fine. Their perks far outweigh those at Jet2, and the total pay you can eventually reach is higher. In terms of job security, and market resilience, most of us look at Jet2 as the safer option.

Horses for courses, and depends on your personal circumstances.

[Boeing 7E7]

Their perks far outweigh those at Jet2, and the total pay you can eventually reach is higher..

What perks are these? Not trying to compete. Just better understand. Allowance towards a TUI holiday?

[Mr Good Cat]

What perks are these? Not trying to compete. Just better understand. Allowance towards a TUI holiday?

Yes, and a uniform hat and the day off payments etc. Maybe TUI have better medical and LOL cover as well.

As I say, depends on whether you want the ancillary stuff or the more secure job with a quicker career progression.

[Basicsteve]

Yes, and a uniform hat and the day off payments etc. Maybe TUI have better medical and LOL cover as well.

As I say, depends on whether you want the ancillary stuff or the more secure job with a quicker career progression.


Also I believe TUI have a good schedule agreement which protects the roster etc….

BUT I believe Jet2 is striving to improve lifestyle

[dhc1180]

BUT I believe Jet2 is striving to improve lifestyle

which is a lot more than what can be said about other airlines at present!

[Bradley Hardacre]

Also I believe TUI have a good schedule agreement which protects the roster etc….

This is an attempt at humour isn't it, when I worked at "Thomson" my roster was appalling.

[MrWhitty]

What perks are these? Not trying to compete. Just better understand. Allowance towards a TUI holiday?

Pre 2013 15% pension, post its 11% from them. Private medical insurance, loss of license, death in service, money towards a holiday tops out at £2000 after X amount of years. They have an opportunity to get late seats/accommodation in hotels/cruises and a few other bits and bobs. That’s where Jet2 will fall behind in compared to TUI.

I done a few years in TUI, as the poster said above the roster is absolutely horrendous. I tried to stick it out, came from LoCo flying Harp and missed it within weeks. Yes they have a number of rostering agreements in place, block window is the most useful. They’ll still plan you do a 11pm ZTH home at 7am followed by a 9pm CFU later that evening. You can’t dress up charter flying, it’s sh*t.

I do think Jet2 will eventually end the airline aspect of TUI Airways, if not play a fairly substantial role in it.
Jet2s expansion into everywhere is at the expense of TUI, EDI is a perfect example. The list goes on.

All Jet2 need is a 5/4 roster or 5/3/5/4 and they’d have a very very strong package, and some form of a more concrete staff travel package. You can’t help but admire their progress, it’s not perfect but they do seem to have a lot correct.

[MrWhitty]

What perks are these? Not trying to compete. Just better understand. Allowance towards a TUI holiday?

Yes, and a uniform hat and the day off payments etc. Maybe TUI have better medical and LOL cover as well.

As I say, depends on whether you want the ancillary stuff or the more secure job with a quicker career progression.

A hat?
I remember this from my time in TUI, you folks love a hat. It got more love their nearest and dearest.

[Mr Good Cat]

A hat?
I remember this from my time in TUI, you folks love a hat. It got more love their nearest and dearest.

I'm not TUI myself. Just comparing the little bits that seem to make some people prefer one over the other.

I've done the hat with a different airline, but job security trumps everything else unless you're a young, brand new FO with little responsibility. Just IMHO of course.

[Vokes55]

Unfortunately you can’t hide from the facts , I hope TUI remain and continue to stick around as it’s good to have some competition!

Which facts are these? I haven’t seen many facts in this thread.

[MrWhitty]

Which facts are these? I haven’t seen many facts in this thread.

2.1b billion in debt. Debt they did clear was due to diluting the shares, and the cash flow of business decreasing over the last 12 months to the stage the business now can't hedge fuel. They're facts.

It's ridiculous to think that Jet2 isn't a safer ship to be in than TUIs.

[Twiglet1]

The problem for Jet 2 on a 5/4 etc is you might get 4-5 flights of 2 sectors whereas at FR/Easy that would be a lot more because of the shorter duration and amount of sectors on offer. This would mean extra crew (lots of). Maybe for winter it would be an option but expectation management is always a challenge with crew

[Chesty Morgan]

Which facts are these? I haven’t seen many facts in this thread.
Including your "fact" that most people choose Jet2 to be close to home...

[double-oscar]

2.1b billion in debt. Debt they did clear was due to diluting the shares, and the cash flow of business decreasing over the last 12 months to the stage the business now can't hedge fuel. They're facts.

It's ridiculous to think that Jet2 isn't a safer ship to be in than TUIs.

It is true that TUI didn’t want to spend money on hedging during the pandemic but cash flow is much better now and so it has resumed its normal hedging policy.

[MrWhitty]

It is true that TUI didn’t want to spend money on hedging during the pandemic but cash flow is much better now and so it has resumed its normal hedging policy.

That would be a fake news. Their current financial reports state their cash flow in the bank has been decreasing over 12 months and that hedging still hasn’t restarted hence uncertainty when pricing holidays. These are issues none of their competitors have.

[t-bag]

TUI results

FUEL/FOREIGN EXCHANGE

Our strategy of hedging the majority of our jet fuel and currency requirements for future seasons gives us increased certainty of costs when planning capacity and pricing. Our current hedged positions for the coming winter and summer seasons are in line with our expectations. The following table shows the percentage of our forecast requirement that is currently hedged for Euros, US Dollars and jet fuel for our Markets & Airlines, which account for over 90% of our Group currency and fuel exposure.


Hedged Position* W23/24 S24 W24/25 Euro 94% 65% 25% US Dollar 90% 76% 37% Jet Fuel 94% 75% 35% *Position at 26 November, 2023

[Jonty]

How did we get from Jet2 pay rises to TUI fuel hedging policy?

[redsnail]

Standard PPRuNe thread drift. ;)

[double-oscar]

And possibly because some people at Jet2, when given an opportunity, always like to present a negative view of TUI.

[VariablePitchP]

And possibly because some people at Jet2, when given an opportunity, always like to present a negative view of TUI.

But a 26% S25 fuel hedge means that they can’t go bust

:zzz:

[t-bag]

That would be a fake news. Their current financial reports state their cash flow in the bank has been decreasing over 12 months and that hedging still hasn’t restarted hence uncertainty when pricing holidays. These are issues none of their competitors have.
I posted the results to point out this is factually incorrect - I agree its thread drift!

But a 26% S25 fuel hedge means that they can’t go bust
This demonstrates a massive misunderstanding of hedging policy, Pprune B**lsh*t at its best.

I'm out.

[EGMC]

Could anybody in the company please share manual flying policy- on airbus OMB.... specifically manual thrusts, visuals etc

[Prob30Tempo TSRA]

[QUOTE=EGMC;11567371]Could anybody in the company please share manual flying policy- on airbus OMB.... specifically manual thrusts, visuals etc[/QUOTE

I doubt you’ll get that . If you are in the company you’ll have it , if your a flight simmer you don’t need it ..

[dick byrne]

And possibly because some people at Jet2, when given an opportunity, always like to present a negative view of TUI.

Standard. They just can’t resist a little willy wave whenever the opportunity presents itself.

[EGMC]

[QUOTE=EGMC;11567371]Could anybody in the company please share manual flying policy- on airbus OMB.... specifically manual thrusts, visuals etc[/QUOTE

I doubt you’ll get that . If you are in the company you’ll have it , if your a flight simmer you don’t need it ..


....and IF I'm considering joining and using it as part of my pro/cons?

[Harry Grout]

Never heard of anyone worrying about an airline's policy on manual flying before. Who cares?

[Prob30Tempo TSRA]

[QUOTE=Prob30Tempo TSRA;11567441]


....and IF I'm considering joining and using it as part of my pro/cons?

In which case I’d say your criteria is weird , slightly alarming and a bit immature

[VariablePitchP]

Never heard of anyone worrying about an airline's policy on manual flying before. Who cares?

Who needs pay, pension, rostering practices, opportunities for commands, basing certaintcy etc etc when you’re allowed to move the little bits of plastic in the aircraft slightly more liberally than some other carriers.

[Say Mach Number]

Also it’s an Airbus does manual flying technically exist. You need to looking for a new type rating if that’s what your after.

[Busdriver01]

Airline specific OM-Bs etc are controlled documents owned by the airline, and there's a very specific note/warning at the beginning of then about reproduction of said documents without authorisation. Please don't ask for this sort of material because you could land someone (pun not intended) in real trouble. Ask the questions you want answered and current employees may be able to answer them.

[MrWhitty]

Airline specific OM-Bs etc are controlled documents owned by the airline, and there's a very specific note/warning at the beginning of then about reproduction of said documents without authorisation. Please don't ask for this sort of material because you could land someone (pun not intended) in real trouble. Ask the questions you want answered and current employees may be able to answer them.

Im going to guess you’re not much fun at the staff parties.

[Prob30Tempo TSRA]

Im going to guess you’re not much fun at the staff parties.

Well he’s absolutely right , the point I was trying to make - you are not allowed to see that stuff outside the airline .

Restrictions on visuals - I’m wondering if you are thinking of a min visibility , which is a restriction my last company put on that

[speedrestriction]

You should be applying to Aer Lingus if you want to play DC3 in an Airbus - the sky gods over there love a bit of AP/ATHR off.

[Busdriver01]

Im going to guess you’re not much fun at the staff parties.

You should see me after my third Cranberry juice

[HandsomeHarry]

I can’t be the only person thinking the reaction to the potential recruit asking a simple question has been needlessly way over the top.

[Mr Good Cat]

Most airlines don’t have a specific policy on visual or manual flying, aside from a recommendation of a latest time to engage the AP.

As with all airlines, it’s the Captain’s call and if he hasn’t briefed it correctly, complied with SOPs and made any poor decisions, he’ll be held accountable.

With this in mind, I wouldn’t be applying to any major airline hoping for lots of manual flying. Try the smaller wet-lease specialists, where perhaps things may be a little less restrictive.

[HidekiTojo]

I can’t be the only person thinking the reaction to the potential recruit asking a simple question has been needlessly way over the top.

Welcome to Jet2.

[excrab]

Possibly not enough airbus pilots at Jet2 yet for any of them to be reading this? As far as I remember in the 737 part B hand flying is encouraged, with a caveat about busy airspace etc. I know it’s there but it’s not a big deal. Generally the PF will say that they would like to hand fly to or from a certain point and the PM says yes, or no if there’s a good reason (airspace/weather etc). I would guess that the airbus part B will be the same, taking into account any manufacturers guidance that I don’t know as I’ve never flown one. But generally in J2 hand flying is encouraged, or has been on all the flights I’ve done in nine years in the company.

[dhc1180]

I can’t be the only person thinking the reaction to the potential recruit asking a simple question has been needlessly way over the top.

Couldn’t agree more. But then that’s the downside of pprune. Generally full of contrived keyboard warrior ego flexing aviation gods.

[Field In Sight]

As excrab says, it's encouraged with the usual caveats regarding workload/weather etc.
it's in OM-A so applies all types. It's the same policy as my previous 2 airlines.

I'm on the Airbus and fly manually to keep in practice regularly.
There is very little flying currently. I've got 3 flights til March, so most people are acting cautiously.

Hope that helps.

[Pizza Express]

Pros and cons

1. How financially viable is the company
2. where do I want to live
3. pay and Ts Cs
4. command opportunities and base transfer policy
5. hand flying policy?

I’m glad someone has politely answered this but it has made me chuckle!

[EGMC]

Thanks to excrab and fieldinsight. That's all I was after, wasn't asking for an ops manual extract- sorry if it was unclear.
And I'm not worried about it or using it as a deal-breaker.... but it is nice to know the culture on this. Cheers!

[Skavenger]

Any jet2 heads able to tell me when Glasgow and Edinburgh are going to become Airbus bases please ?

[Jonty]

Any jet2 heads able to tell me when Glasgow and Edinburgh are going to become Airbus bases please ?

Edinburg from November, Glasgow I have no idea.

[Mr Good Cat]

Edinburg from November, Glasgow I have no idea.

I think the airframes will arrive early 2025, with the Airbus training for the EDI guys from this November at the MTC.

[Skavenger]

Edinburg from November, Glasgow I have no idea.

thanks