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MARK9263
12th Jul 2023, 12:49
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1307/img859_b19e2e73bd01d74b01277952745c387a64e0b806.jpg
Can anyone identify this please?
Asturias56
12th Jul 2023, 15:28
Commercial, older design, some upgraded instruments?
Bit industrial so maybe 1945-60?
4 engined
Looks American to me
SLXOwft
12th Jul 2023, 17:48
DC-6?
bingofuel
12th Jul 2023, 19:51
DC4 but somewhat altered centre panel.
thnarg
12th Jul 2023, 21:53
I think it might be British at the front, American at the back…
Asturias56
13th Jul 2023, 07:36
Might be a Convair 440??? they had a really boxy cockpit
thnarg
13th Jul 2023, 08:00
Might be a Convair
Nearly!
nib1600
13th Jul 2023, 11:45
Not an Electra is it?
dixi188
13th Jul 2023, 13:22
Are we looking at a Carvair with up dated instruments.
I remember seeing "Plane Jane" at Willow Run in 1991.
washoutt
14th Jul 2023, 09:14
A nose Heater! Smacks of a first generation radar nose. Four jets and windows not resembling Douglas heritage. Convair 880?
thnarg
14th Jul 2023, 10:48
Looks like there was a hot air connection to the nose for airframe de-icing, or was it just a freight deck heater? Was the wx radar was mounted under the windscreens?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x901/img_3838_5700fabe8bb23c288aba12353b837041e4e1ed20.jpeg
Any retired BAF, Ansett etc posters out there able to add anything?
8 out 21 destroyed in crashes is sobering…
dixi188
14th Jul 2023, 20:26
I think the nose heater was for anti ice. With a blunt front like that I think it could pick up quite a lot of ice.
We are waiting for confirmation of the type from MARK9263.
MARK9263
15th Jul 2023, 08:38
:) Actually, I don't know. I wanted to know what it was!
thnarg
15th Jul 2023, 09:29
Consensus seems to agree it’s an Aviation Traders Carvair, Mark. You’re welcome!
Dixi, all yours I think?
MARK9263
15th Jul 2023, 10:19
Many thanks Guys.
MARK9263
23rd Jul 2023, 12:24
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1516x1023/img410_1710eea7c98f77439226176bac218b9e2a13c9b5.jpg
This isn't part of the quiz, I'd actually like to know what cockpit this is please?
sycamore
23rd Jul 2023, 13:04
Constellation....
MARK9263
23rd Jul 2023, 13:35
Superb thank you very much
MARK9263
3rd Aug 2023, 15:12
You guys on here have been fantastic identifying vareius cockpits for me.
I have two more please.....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1307/img187_efdd4d2e72c30d306aeae0b9df5da992bbd159b4.jpg
MARK9263
3rd Aug 2023, 15:14
And this one....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1325/img188_3514b995380e407c04890034888404fcf05382d5.jpg
You guys on here have been fantastic identifying vareius cockpits for me.
I have two more please.....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1307/img187_efdd4d2e72c30d306aeae0b9df5da992bbd159b4.jpg
this photo is mirror reversed. of a B757/767. The differences would be seen on the overhead panel. Your B747 is B742 3AP/FD or B743.
thnarg
3rd Aug 2023, 21:23
this photo is mirror reversed. of a B757/76.
B767 looking at the hydraulic panel and sidewalls.
I have no problem with such queries but yes, maybe start a new thread for help.
MARK9263
5th Aug 2023, 14:04
Could anyone identify this antique cockpit please?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1010x642/img376_e0c5d918a6044e8ab0136e8c03c6080ec6932d60.jpg
sandringham1
5th Aug 2023, 14:18
DC4 I think
MARK9263
5th Aug 2023, 14:36
Your knowledge guys is superb
Liffy 1M
5th Aug 2023, 16:36
C-54 military version for comparison:
https://flic.kr/p/2oQmCTW
thnarg
6th Aug 2023, 10:24
… and this is the Canadair North Star version which seems to have the HUD bird selected, presumably to fly FPA?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1862x1287/img_3923_9aa28715e77428bd8a3e3b93dbd3139247f89227.jpeg
OUAQUKGF Ops
6th Aug 2023, 12:18
Is that a leaking window there with water coming off the coaming LHS Can't tell if the lid is on the container or not ?!
MARK9263
8th Aug 2023, 07:56
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/448x294/img180_copy_7c2cf981acbbdf5d4f24435399c4c589b3ec9e79.jpg
Any idea on this one chaps?
treadigraph
8th Aug 2023, 10:13
It's an Antonov, Google lens suggests an AN-26...
MARK9263
8th Aug 2023, 11:12
Thank you.
meleagertoo
8th Aug 2023, 13:13
It's an Antonov, Google lens suggests an AN-26...
Hey - careful! Mentioning Google around here seems to provoke the most extraordinary results!
thnarg
8th Aug 2023, 13:30
Sorry, Captain Pedantic here. Isn’t it an AN-30? Specifically this one…
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1871x1037/img_3927_6829459fd645f5aafce884efeac6b68747ef8127.jpeg
… judging by the numbers annotated on the control columns
MARK9263
8th Aug 2023, 14:44
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x691/img026_copy_80afeeb8c4d4acc65f85db9ae461180d65b91c79.jpg
Another guys if could oblige?
dixi188
8th Aug 2023, 15:06
BAC One Eleven, not sure what series, no FD108 flight director.
May be a 510ED, the BEA ones had a different FD and a Decca where the blank space is in the middle.
Asturias56
8th Aug 2023, 15:12
Your knowledge guys is superb
think what we could have achieved if we did something useful!
MARK9263
8th Aug 2023, 15:32
Brilliant thanks....
washoutt
9th Aug 2023, 08:28
I always thought Russian dashboards were turquoise coloured.
MARK9263
11th Aug 2023, 09:03
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x694/img167_copy_ab97fc88f4c0906f356c961f8341a65a83d1f4d6.jpg
Sorry guys, another two I need help with please.
MARK9263
11th Aug 2023, 09:04
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x629/img172_copy_17b7a8c21542c3801749b1042135a04ddc056f38.jpg
dixi188
11th Aug 2023, 13:46
Top is a B747 classic, lower is a B757, I think.
MARK9263
11th Aug 2023, 14:19
Thank you.
meleagertoo
11th Aug 2023, 14:20
A bit of a giveaway, since both types featured here in the same post on this very thread just a couple of days ago...
Is this thread not some sort of a wind-up?
thnarg
11th Aug 2023, 16:50
Last time was a 767 but that’s a 757, and the altitude and speed suggests they’re behind schedule…
Asturias56
11th Aug 2023, 17:09
A bit of a giveaway, since both types featured here in the same post on this very thread just a couple of days ago...
Is this thread not some sort of a wind-up?
yes - I'm curious - what is the aim of all these cockpit pictures?
Sue Vêtements
11th Aug 2023, 23:28
Looks like there was a hot air connection to the nose for airframe de-icing, or was it just a freight deck heater? Was the wx radar was mounted under the windscreens?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x901/img_3838_5700fabe8bb23c288aba12353b837041e4e1ed20.jpeg
Any retired BAF, Ansett etc posters out there able to add anything?
8 out 21 destroyed in crashes is sobering…
It's been a while now, but I think there were several parked at Gainesville Texas. If not, then they were something very similar
treadigraph
12th Aug 2023, 16:47
There is certainly one stored at Gainesville Municiple (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@33.6484619,-97.1937686,316m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu). N89FA, formerly G-ASHZ/Fat Annie with British Air Ferries, I think I recall her as the one I saw flying at "Injun territory" altitude over Kenley Aerodrome around '76 or '77, presumably enjoying a VFR bimble back to Southend from somewhere "out west". Looked and sounded marvellous... I know I saw "Plain Jane" performing a feat of levitation from 08 at Gatters a year or so later - think she also went to the US and was written off.
Jamie-Southend
17th Oct 2023, 08:07
Not flown on PPRuNe for a while, but noticed the CARVAIR thread :D
Our group does indeed have one, well the Cockpit anyway, :8, recently saved from the bean can man, and now residing very close to its birthplace near Southend.
Those interested can see our site at www.carvaircockpit.co.uk
Its quite a task we have, but things are progressing.
Jamie-Southend
17th Oct 2023, 08:08
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1340x2000/368192310_7348523178507396_7801611358593561600_n_358690fa4db 6221cc6f43433caec4d7790dbd527.jpg