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treadigraph
8th May 2023, 08:58
Dunno how this Argentine got away with it!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1655137354921791494

Chris2303
8th May 2023, 09:05
According to the Aircrash Investigations Facebook page:

6/May/23. 1400hrs. Local time.
Vans RV-7A. Reg.no. LV-X722.
Further to the low pass and wing scrape incident that took place at the Allen Club Airshow in Argentina, the pilot managed to drag the aircraft back into the air and fly back to his base and land safely.
The aircraft has suffered substantial damage to its right wing and mainspar.
The owner who has not been named is being questioned by Police and Air Investigators for wreckless flying in public and endangering the public. The Airshow organisers are also being questioned.

treadigraph
8th May 2023, 09:14
for wreckless flying in public and endangering the public

Yup, there could have been a hell of a wreck!

Lot of YouTube vids showing South American pilots vying for The Lowest Low Flying Award along with a Darwin Award. They seem unaware of the old saw "you can never beat the world record for low flying, you can only tie with it..."

speed13ird
8th May 2023, 09:42
it was more reckless than wreckless, he wrecked it!

Jhieminga
8th May 2023, 09:56
+1 for fixed gear undercarriages. They can save reckless pilots from themselves.

RichardJones
8th May 2023, 10:21
All been done before.
There is a very thin line with air show flying. The aim is to demonstrate what skills you possess. Not, as in this case, skills you dont possess.
If this is not a case for pulling a licence, I don't know what is, considering the 3rd party risks. Go fool around out in the desert for example, to ensure when you screwup, you dont kill others.
It should be left to the experts to demonstrate aircraft and skills.i don't claim to be one.

beamer
8th May 2023, 12:30
I hope he bought a lottery ticket that day…….

ATSA1
8th May 2023, 12:30
Didnt Fg Off Bader do something similar at Woodley in 1931?

Less Hair
8th May 2023, 12:33
Udet had a flight display routine where he picked up handkerchiefs with his wing tip. Another one was to dismount (and reinstall) the entire main landing gear in flight or throw out "the" stick.

punkalouver
8th May 2023, 13:00
Udet had a flight display routine where he picked up handkerchiefs with his wing tip. Another one was to dismount (and reinstall) the entire main landing gear in flight or throw out "the" stick.
I thought Geoff Tyson did the handkerchief thing but can't find a picture online.

Fargo Boyle
8th May 2023, 13:21
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x429/aircraft_1568057_2356c515f9235f7faf3ae4fa8705ad6a0d342acf.jp g
I thought Geoff Tyson did the handkerchief thing but can't find a picture online.
https://www.flightglobalimages.com/p/241/aircraft-1568057.jpg

blind pew
8th May 2023, 13:33
Long for the good old days of racing finishes at VNE and hearing the corn ears brushing the fuz..

TLDNMCL
8th May 2023, 14:21
I wouldn't want to be riding back seat on a tandem bike with that twerp in front.

Less Hair
8th May 2023, 16:04
Handkerchief Udet flying:
​​​​​​Udet YT

Link:
<<https://youtu.be/M2CBx7x5GCI>>

Jump Complete
8th May 2023, 18:57
My late father’s flying instructor, Neville Browning, cartwheeled Tiger Moth G-ACDC (now owned by the Tiger Club, I believe,) during an air-display. My father said everyone thought he was gone, but he walked into the club house with a cut on his head muttering about ‘bloody mole-hills!’
Dad said ACDC looked liked a crushed paper bag afterwards.

treadigraph
8th May 2023, 19:50
I've seen a pic of 'CDC after Neville Browning's mishap at Rochester - it was a bit of a mess!

Here it is (https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1067351)...

Jump Complete
8th May 2023, 20:19
I've seen a pic of 'CDC after Neville Browning's mishap at Rochester - it was a bit of a mess!

Here it is (https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1067351)...

Yikes. The ‘crushed paper bag’ description wasn’t far off, was it?

wub
8th May 2023, 20:33
Weston-Super-Mare 1976

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0erTgWvV7I

Pilot DAR
8th May 2023, 22:33
So many times over the decades, I have paused and thought to myself: "How would I explain what I just did, if it went wrong?". Then I didn't do it. I'm sure not perfect, but I really do enjoy not being thought of as irresponsible by my peers and employers!

chevvron
9th May 2023, 05:33
Hope somebody posts the film of the Buccaneers at Nellis during 'Red Flag' flights.
OK they didn't actually touch the ground but it was bloody close!
Wasn't there a recent claim that a Vulcan DID touch the ground too?(and left a mark in the surface)

gravedigger666
9th May 2023, 21:05
Udet had a flight display routine where he picked up handkerchiefs with his wing tip. Another one was to dismount (and reinstall) the entire main landing gear in flight or throw out "the" stick.

I've never heard of the guy before today, fascinating to learn of his exploits, but what a tragic end.

kiwi grey
10th May 2023, 00:06
Wasn't there a recent claim that a Vulcan DID touch the ground too?(and left a mark in the surface)
At the opening of Wellington (NZ) Airport on 25 October 1959? Sure did:
As {Paul Davidson} watched in gale-force northerlies beside the runway, he saw a giant delta-wing Vulcan bomber almost crash in front of him. The bomber touched down short of the runway, rupturing part of its landing gear, wing attachments and engine fuel lines and narrowly avoiding clipping a wing tip that would have sent it cartwheeling towards the crowd. ... The pilot managed to abort the landing and fly the damaged plane to Ohakea where it made an emergency landing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/116818277/wellington-air-show-near-tragedies-remembered-60-years-on

spornrad
10th May 2023, 08:55
I've never heard of the guy before today, fascinating to learn of his exploits, but what a tragic end.
Great book and film about Udet: The Devil's General (book by Carl Zuckmayer)

DuncanDoenitz
10th May 2023, 16:10
A teenaged Eric Brown had an life-changing encounter with Ernst Udet during the Munich Olympics in 1936. Unfazed by by a ride in Udet's Jungmann (which included finals flown inverted), Udet advised Winkle "You will make a fine fighter pilot; learn to fly, and learn to speak German".

So he did, and he did.

Expatrick
10th May 2023, 17:49
Great book and film about Udet: The Devil's General (book by Carl Zuckmayer)

That's interesting, because

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/474x266/img_20230510_194746_45f00d5de54b2bf6ef44f993fab1ee4009483827 .jpg


I guess titles are not copyright?

Ah, now I get it (from Wikipedia)

Des Teufels General is a 1946 play written by German author and playwright Carl Zuckmayer, translated as The Devil's General. The title character of the play, General Harras, is based on the ace Ernst Udet. The play is based upon his struggles during the war, simultaneously working under and openly being against the Nazi Party. Despite the serious scenario of it, a comical and satirical tone is often used throughout the play.

Bergerie1
10th May 2023, 18:01
QUESTION:- Does hubris have any place in serious aviation? Answers on a post card please.

JanetFlight
11th May 2023, 03:04
Lovely memories here from the Kiwi Near 3 Disasters ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTN-x21W2kQ

Maninthebar
11th May 2023, 07:21
What a great piece of film.

Especially liked the quiet irony of the early remark that "we military pilots admired the skills of the Fokker pilot, but not his judgement", followed by.....

MENELAUS
11th May 2023, 09:57
What an excellent piece of film. Reminds me of the Gannet Air day. Seafire ditches. Pilot bales out towards the Ailsa Craig and rescued by duty sar. Followed by a BA classic en route to the NAT Tracks which diverts in for a full blown evacuation following a cargo fire warning. The punters got their moneys worth !!

FlightlessParrot
13th May 2023, 05:09
In the 1980s, Radio New Zealand used to do travel news. On several occasions I heard the report that Wellington Airport was marginal. I'm not a professional, but as a (nervous) passenger, that is not what I'd like to hear.

Fargo Boyle
13th May 2023, 10:35
What an excellent piece of film. Reminds me of the Gannet Air day. Seafire ditches. Pilot bales out towards the Ailsa Craig and rescued by duty sar. Followed by a BA classic en route to the NAT Tracks which diverts in for a full blown evacuation following a cargo fire warning. The punters got their moneys worth !!
The Navy aircraft was Sea Fury FB11, TF956 with a knackered u/c leg. I didn't know about the 747 on the same day - aviation is rarely boring!

KRviator
15th May 2023, 01:30
As a fellow, but somewhat more cautious RV driver, I was curious as to what Vans would say about repairs and so on. They've come out and said "he's on his own" in regards to parts, and they consider the aircraft a write-off, as they won't be approving a repair or inspection scheme.

A shame, as it looked like quite a nice -7 before the seat-stick-interface failed...