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jeepjeep
25th Mar 2023, 18:30
In Xizhou Township, Changhua County, Taiwan March 16th, a Shark light aircraft crashed, killing 54-year-old instructor and an 18-year-old Japanese high school student. Zhongshi News reported that LG, the instructor of the "Shunfeng Flying Club", was piloting a small plane, carrying an 18-year-old Japanese man, HH, and aborted a first landing attempt. The pilot pulled up and turned to for another pass when the aircraft stalled and crashed into the side of the river embankment. A raging fire ignited at the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVOipmh_H00

jeepjeep
25th Mar 2023, 18:35
The student reportedly was on a family trip to Taiwan and had boarded the light aircraft for an excursion. L.G., the pilot, had previously served as a captain of an F-16 fighter jet squadron in the Air Force and eventually reached the rank of colonel, with a total flight time of 1,936 hours in F-16 and IDF fighters. RIP.

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B-757
25th Mar 2023, 19:05
Another "Watch this" accident.. Feel sorry for the Student and his family.. RIP

Fly safe,
B-757

Pilot DAR
25th Mar 2023, 19:52
Perhaps the Colonel was used to having more power available.....

BFSGrad
25th Mar 2023, 21:09
Perhaps the Colonel was used to having more power available.....
Or high AOA protection.

Pilot DAR
26th Mar 2023, 08:32
I have never flown a jet. I have trained many pilots who have moved back GA airplanes from having flown jets. The more I have done this training, the more I have learned to watch out for pilots who have unproven confidence in their piloting skills in types with much less performance than they are used to. Just because it's small, does not make it easier to fly than the big/powerful/automated planes they were used to....

punkalouver
26th Mar 2023, 13:33
I have never flown a jet. I have trained many pilots who have moved back GA airplanes from having flown jets. The more I have done this training, the more I have learned to watch out for pilots who have unproven confidence in their piloting skills in types with much less performance than they are used to. Just because it's small, does not make it easier to fly than the big/powerful/automated planes they were used to....
Good point. I remember a story of an F-4 guy in the US crashing an underpowered aircraft that was performance related.

Guys who are used to being able to accelerate while going straight up may not appreciate aircraft where there may be situations where acceleration is only possible in a descent. I see on the video what appears top be a lot of flap extension and was thinking of high drag during that flight, especially once the airspeed was bled off. Nose down.

Deaf
26th Mar 2023, 15:36
In Australia many years the then Ultralight Federation had to bring in 5hrs of training/conversion for all licensed pilots to address the low inertia issues. This was as a result of a series of accidents much like this one.

pattern_is_full
26th Mar 2023, 20:27
I see on the video what appears to be a lot of flap extension and was thinking of high drag during that flight, especially once the airspeed was bled off.

Yes - and/or raised them once in the climbing bank, just when the speed/AoA/lift equation would have been most critical (video is too low-rez at that point to be sure).

But there are a lot of other and/ors in this complex aircraft that gets 161 kts out of 100 hp/75Kw-h. Prop lever not moved to high rpm, confusion of flap and gear levers (different, but close together), or indeed an engine issue.

fdr
26th Mar 2023, 21:13
Might be more to that, would be interested in any data they get from the EFIS and GPS etc, might be more happening here than just a bad hair day...

megan
27th Mar 2023, 03:20
In Australia many years the then Ultralight Federation had to bring in 5hrs of training/conversion for all licensed pilots to address the low inertia issuesAs I found out on my first ever attempt to land a Jabiru, speed disappeared in the snap of a finger and the gear got a solid work out being dropped on, nothing broke though.

WideScreen
27th Mar 2023, 06:17
Viewing the YT on a Wide Screen (65", full screen), it becomes visible:
- Just after lift-off, no climb, but seemingly speed-increase.
- Then, the airplane goes in a very steep climb.
- When in the steep climb, it is visible, the speed significantly decreases.
- Subsequently, a near 45 degrees bank-angle, with even more speed decreasing.
- Subsequently, less climb, wings get level and momentarily a level off.
- Subsequently, the airplane starts mushing down.
- And then a wing drop.

Looks to me a demonstration, "this is how we do this in the military, with high performance jets".

henra
27th Mar 2023, 13:30
Looks to me a demonstration, "this is how we do this in the military, with high performance jets".
And then this bl**dy aircraft didn't even have an afterburner to power itself out from this oh so dark side of the power curve