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I spy
11th Feb 2023, 07:45
Anyone know anything about this incident, apparently on 17L at Moorabbin today?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1500x2000/ymmb_4f89f00414f7b65c8ac31cc109fa21635ee355c0.jpg
Home Brew
11th Feb 2023, 09:05
It is the security camera's fault. Not painted in red and white
Chinese spying perhaps??
I spy
11th Feb 2023, 09:57
Ahh, not was I referring to!
The plane in the background on it's nose?!?!?!?!?
VHOED191006
11th Feb 2023, 11:29
It is the security camera's fault. Not painted in red and white
Chinese spying perhaps??
No. There isn't a balloon attached to it.....
Lead Balloon
11th Feb 2023, 19:59
Collided with a 4’ shrub.
This, children, is why you need to read ALL NOTAMs.
Yes. Why hasn't the tail tie-down rope got a witches hat around it?
PiperCameron
12th Feb 2023, 22:04
Anyone know anything about this incident, apparently on 17L at Moorabbin today?
Wasn't me!! (this time..)
Squawk7700
12th Feb 2023, 23:28
I see the issue straight away....
The pilot (or whoever is walking around outside of the aircraft) is not wearing high-vis!
PiperCameron
12th Feb 2023, 23:49
I see the issue straight away....
The pilot (or whoever is walking around outside of the aircraft) is not wearing high-vis!
Better check his ASIC is current also.. but I reckon it's more likely to be a W&B issue - looks to me like the aircraft was nose heavy.
43Inches
12th Feb 2023, 23:56
Funny that whatever they are wearing stands out more than day-glo yellow. Someday we'll probably find out the dye in hi-vs causes cancer, who to sue, the vest maker or the idiots who mandate it everywhere its not really needed.
Then there's the idiots that erect poles with cameras on them in the middle of a taxiway complex and probably complain when a trainer clips one with a wing, and they still would have no footage of it as its below the cameras.
Better check his ASIC is current also.. but I reckon it's more likely to be a W&B issue - looks to me like the aircraft was nose heavy.
Looks more like a maintenance error, they moved the nose wheel to the tail and the pilot didn't notice.
PS if I sit in front of those yellow cones, box or taxiway lines in my yellow vest, am I still hi-vis?
PiperCameron
13th Feb 2023, 00:33
Then there's the idiots that erect poles with cameras on them in the middle of a taxiway complex and probably complain when a trainer clips one with a wing, and they still would have no footage of it as its below the cameras.
Yeah, but don't forget the idiots that erect warehouses around the perimeter specially located to ensure maximum turbulence so they can probably complain when a trainer clips the roof of one on final.. they'd have no footage of that either!
43Inches
13th Feb 2023, 03:23
Yeah, but don't forget the idiots that erect warehouses around the perimeter specially located to ensure maximum turbulence so they can probably complain when a trainer clips the roof of one on final.. they'd have no footage of that either!
I watched the first Warehouse alongside 13/31 erected. There was definitely a few close-ish approaches on 22 that could have clipped it. As well as the Eagles early right turns off 35R/31R that tried to high five workers on the roof, tower guys might remember what I mean.
NZFlyingKiwi
13th Feb 2023, 18:02
Funny that whatever they are wearing stands out more than day-glo yellow. Someday we'll probably find out the dye in hi-vs causes cancer, who to sue, the vest maker or the idiots who mandate it everywhere its not really needed.
I would assume that in order for a pilot to be accused of not wearing their safety cloak, said pilot would first need to be seen by the accuser. Reminds me a bit of the time I was scheduled to fly, during the day, an aeroplane painted in all over red and the student asked me with some concern if it was a problem that the rotating beacon wasn't working.
Alpha Whiskey Bravo
14th Feb 2023, 00:45
C441 how would you taxi into the box if there was a witches hat on the tail tie down? Reverse it in? :E
tossbag
14th Feb 2023, 03:41
I would assume that in order for a pilot to be accused of not wearing their safety cloak, said pilot would first need to be seen by the accuser.
A bit like the ******** safety officer who drove about a k and a half to rip it up a pilot loading his aircraft who wasn't wearing the vest. Old mate listened to the safety 'lecture' for about 2 minutes before asking the safety officer how he saw him from so far away with no vest on. ******** drove off in a huff.
gassed budgie
14th Feb 2023, 09:39
A bit like the ******** safety officer who drove about a k and a half to rip it up a pilot loading his aircraft who wasn't wearing the vest. Old mate listened to the safety 'lecture' for about 2 minutes before asking the safety officer how he saw him from so far away with no vest on. ******** drove off in a huff.
Must’ve been in Mildura. They still carry on with all that **** up there. Bendigo isn’t much better these days.
PiperCameron
17th Feb 2023, 00:50
Anyone know anything about this incident, apparently on 17L at Moorabbin today?
I hear from a friend (who is now upset that his training has been put on hold) that it was a C152 Aerobat.
Apparently, during some low-level aeros the solo student pilot didn't quite have enough altitude to pull out of a loop.. but he ended up right on centerline for 17L so at least he got some marks for effort.
Egipps
17th Feb 2023, 20:48
I hear from a friend (who is now upset that his training has been put on hold) that it was a C152 Aerobat.
Apparently, during some low-level aeros the solo student pilot didn't quite have enough altitude to pull out of a loop.. but he ended up right on centerline for 17L so at least he got some marks for effort.
Low level aeros over Moorabbin.. 🤔 😂
43Inches
17th Feb 2023, 23:19
I hear from a friend (who is now upset that his training has been put on hold) that it was a C152 Aerobat.
Apparently, during some low-level aeros the solo student pilot didn't quite have enough altitude to pull out of a loop.. but he ended up right on centerline for 17L so at least he got some marks for effort.
Here's pictures of the Piper C152 doing some low passes before the loop. It was a special Brazillian night at the RVAC Bar that afternoon and quite full, so lots of witnesses. Pedro said he was quite thrilled until it was clear the Piper had lost its thronomiester and was set to impact a local day care, with parts possibly showering the festival. The skilled hero pilot then managed to hit the runway vertically preventing massive carnage and loss of life. The ATSB said that we wasted their valuable time just calling them for comment so they won't even look at the pictures on this one as it looks like another sensational Qantas air return was about to happen, apparently a smell emanating from a forward toilet had caused concern for Sir Pendlebury of Brighton who required the jet return to Melbourne for immediate inspection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFmifkoXds
megan
18th Feb 2023, 00:54
Poor show 43, he missed picking up the hankerchief (Mallala, SA airshow piece of one Tiger Moth driver in late 1950's)
PiperCameron
20th Feb 2023, 00:10
Poor show 43, he missed picking up the hankerchief (Mallala, SA airshow piece of one Tiger Moth driver in late 1950's)
Are you sure he wasn't just using his nosewheel to check runway tarmac strength prior to landing?? :)
megan
20th Feb 2023, 02:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLUVq_9M-Yw
Capt Fathom
20th Feb 2023, 09:18
A very informative thread….NOT! Even the funny bits aren’t funny!
PiperCameron
20th Feb 2023, 21:14
A very informative thread….NOT! Even the funny bits aren’t funny!
CF, the truth is in there.. if you know where to look :)
Lead Balloon
20th Feb 2023, 22:08
A 4' shrub is no laughing matter.
PiperCameron
20th Feb 2023, 22:13
Low level aeros over Moorabbin.. 🤔 😂
https://youtu.be/A4Bviqy-8yk
43Inches
21st Feb 2023, 00:36
A 4' shrub is no laughing matter.
It should have been contained in a shrubbery, do you know any good Shrubbers? Roger comes to mind if you can't find any others.
Squawk7700
21st Feb 2023, 01:39
https://youtu.be/A4Bviqy-8yk
I heard on good authority first hand that wrists were slapped over that event.
On a side note I’m surprised at how two supposedly professional pilots were acting like 6 year old school girls when they were approved for a “low approach.” The fact that the controllers were filming was a bit of a clue that it was staged. The magic of Hollywood.
I am surprised that the two of them can legally fit in that aircraft, the payload is tiny.
PiperCameron
21st Feb 2023, 04:00
I heard on good authority first hand that wrists were slapped over that event.
On a side note I’m surprised at how two supposedly professional pilots were acting like 6 year old school girls when they were approved for a “low approach.” The fact that the controllers were filming was a bit of a clue that it was staged. The magic of Hollywood.
I'm sure if I asked for a "low approach" in my old clunker, a certain YMMB tower controller would insist (in her best school-marm tone) that I "Land Immediately!!!" Must have been a quiet day.
megan
21st Feb 2023, 04:50
A very informative thread….NOT! Even the funny bits aren’t funny!You can please some of the people all the time, you can please all the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time. You do know who Ernst Udet was? An aviator of considerable skill, and fame for those skills.
Pinky the pilot
21st Feb 2023, 09:01
a certain YMMB tower controller would insist (in her best school-marm tone) that I "Land Immediately!!!
Piper; Back around 1989 there was a Tower Controller at Port Moresby who sounded somewhat differently to the description you give above.
Just try to imagine Marilyn Monroe saying, in the same voice she sang to JFK, "Happy Birthday Mr President"
'Sierra Alpha Bravo, Clear to land.':ooh:
Nearly 35 years later and I can still hear her!:E
Found out her name but never did meet her!:{